A picture has emerged of the scale of losses sunk on the axed flagship rural bus service for Ripon, Masham and Bedale.
North Yorkshire Council announced last week it would abandon the YorBus on-demand bus service, which it had hoped to roll out to numerous rural areas poorly served by buses. The 14-seater minibuses will cease to operate at the end of the month.
The council claimed future transport services would be shaped by lessons learned from YorBus.
But councillors from across the political spectrum sounded a less upbeat tone about the outcome of the pilot at a meeting of the council’s Skipton and Ripon area constituency committee yesterday.
A report to councillors revealed Yorbus had seen a further £224,000 of taxpayers money pumped into it after disappointing first year figures.
Despite changes to try to improve uptake, the high-profile service carried just 14,208 passengers over 12 months, at an average cost per passenger of £15.57 across the year.
This is significantly higher than that for fixed timetable bus routes in the area which are around £6.50 per passenger.
Sustainability warnings
Within months of YorBus being launched, public transport experts had said it was unsustainable and needed a major overhaul to attract more passengers.
The authority’s hopes of extending demand-responsive transport were dealt a further blow last year when the government rejected the county’s £116m Bus Back Better bid in its entirety, citing a “lack of ambition” — a claim the council has rejected.
The committee heard how YorBus had often been seen driving around with few or no passengers. One Conservative member claimed following disappointing YorBus figures for the first year, officers had worked “to try and prove the concept”.

Cllr Andrew Murday
Cllr Andrew Murday, a Liberal Democrat who represents Pateley Bridge and Nidderdale, questioned why the council had not abandoned the trial after the first year, adding:
“Obviously the project has failed and there are better ways of providing public transport.”
The meeting heard the trial had been extended for a further year largely to test if changes to the booking system improved take-up.
Councillors were told while the development of public transport was a key part of the council’s economic development plan, particularly to boost tourism, more rural bus services, including a regular service to the Yorkshire Dales gateway town of Grassington, were under threat.
Some councillors suggested the council should look to facilitate taxi or car-sharing through localised social media accounts before others pointed towards passenger safety concerns.
Residents ‘horrified by the cost’
Calling for more innovative solutions, Settle and Penyghent councillor David Staveley said:
“Most residents who don’t use these public service buses, and don’t have any inclination to, would be quite horrified by the cost per journey that this has incurred. It’s a lot of money that’s coming out of the public purse.”
However, other councillors argued the reason behind residents’ reliance on cars was due to the lack of a sufficiently frequent and direct bus service.
The meeting heard villages without public transport were being “condemned to death”, as planning rules banned building “unsustainable” homes, while post-pandemic many of the county’s elderly residents had not gone back to using buses.
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Referring to the trial, executive member for culture and housing, Cllr Simon Myers, said:
“It’s regrettable it hasn’t worked, but somehow we have to change people’s attitudes to public transport. How do we encourage the public back to using the services that are there? That’s a real challenge.”
Helmsley Conservative councillor George Jabbour said he believed from next year the incoming mayoral combined authority would have the additional funding needed to invest in public transport.
Cllr Jabbour added:
Controversial Knox Lane 53-homes plan deferred for third time“This experience should not make the council less bold in its drive to explore new creative and innovative ways to improve public transport in our county.”
A controversial plan to build 53 homes on Knox Lane in Harrogate has been deferred for a third time.
Councillors on Harrogate and Knaresborough constituency planning committee made the decision over land contamination concerns.
The committee requested that a further report into land contamination be produced, as was previously requested by Harrogate Borough Council’s planning committee.
The proposal, which has been proposed by North-east property developer Jomast, was initially recommended for approval subject to conditions by council officers.
Among the conditions is that Jomast would be required to pay £64,000 for healthcare, £140,000 for education and £60,000 for open spaces in the form of a section 106 agreement to compensate for the impact of development on local infrastructure.
However, councillors decided to defer the pan for a third time.
The meeting, which was held at Harrogate Civic Centre yesterday, was due to be streamed onto the authority’s YouTube channel — but was not broadcast.
A spokesperson for North Yorkshire Council said a “problem with the connection” in the council chamber meant it was not possible to livestream the proceedings.
The application has proved controversial with residents in the Bilton area.
Campaign group Keep Knox Natural has previously called on the council to remove the parcel of land from the Harrogate District Local Plan 2014-35, which outlines where development can take place.
Meanwhile, Cllr Robert Windass, a member of the council’s planning committee, previously vowed not to vote for the scheme until he felt the “land is safe”.
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Council rejects Harrogate office block conversion over natural light concern
A plan to convert Simpson House in Harrogate into flats has been refused over natural light concerns.
Bramhope Property and Investments Limited tabled the proposal to North Yorkshire Council to convert the the former office block off Clarence Drive into 12 flats.
Documents submitted to the council outlined plans to create 12 two-bedroom apartments.
It would see the ground, first and second floors converted.
But, council officials have rejected the plan over concerns that those who would live in the flats would not have enough natural light.
In a decision notice, the authority said:
“The existing building abuts mature trees and hedges to the south on an embankment within the conservation area.
“The cumulative effect of the trees, hedges and site topography would provide large amounts of shade to the east, south and west elevation windows of six proposed dwellings during most parts of the day.
“These windows serve habitable rooms including living/dining rooms and bedrooms.
“The trees cannot be managed under this prior notification application, and there are no mitigating factors that would compensate for this significant loss of natural light.”
The move comes after two previous proposals to change the use of the office block to residential were refused in 2022.
Meanwhile, another application by Artium Group was withdrawn in July 2022 amid concern from Harrogate Borough Council officers over the impact on neighbouring trees.
In the latest proposal, developers said the building is already surrounded by residential properties.
It said:
“The ground and first floors of the building have been vacant for several years and the second floor of the building has recently become vacant.
“The building is surrounded by existing residential properties which are previously converted office buildings surrounded by mature trees.”
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Council to consult on Harrogate school for autistic children
A proposed school for children with autism moved a small step closer to being created in Bilton yesterday (Tuesday, May 30), when North Yorkshire Council accepted a recommendation to consult on the plans.
The matter will now be thrown open for public discussion by stakeholders for a six-week period from Monday, June 12.
The school, at the site of the former Woodfield Community Primary School in Harrogate, would provide school places for children and young people with autism in North Yorkshire. A total of £3.5 million has been earmarked to upgrade the site to enable it to cater for up to 80 pupils with autism aged between 11 and 19.
The potential opening date for the new school is September 2024.
Welcoming the decision, North Yorkshire Council’s executive member for education, learning and skills, Cllr Annabel Wilkinson, said:
“I’m delighted that the council is to explore this proposal. The new facility would help meet a rising demand for special school places in Harrogate, Knaresborough, Ripon and the surrounding area.
“Currently there are 432 children with the primary need of autism accessing existing North Yorkshire special schools and we are committed to providing further support.”
She added:
“This would provide children and families with a more local offer of provision than is currently available without significant travel.”
North Yorkshire has already announced £20 million of investment in children and young people in North Yorkshire with special educational needs and disabilities (SEND), including the creation of new places in Special Schools and mainstream SEN Resource Bases.
Since 2016, the number of children and young people with identified SEND and an education, health and care plan (EHCP) has increased by over 110% in North Yorkshire. As this trend continues, it is estimated that the county will need an additional 350 SEND school places over the next three to five years.
North Yorkshire Council said the investment would enable it to find suitable placements for more young people closer to their local communities and deliver better value for children and families from the county, including improving existing provision to create “modern, fit-for-purpose spaces suited to a wider range of pupil needs”.
Woodfield Community Primary School closed at the end of December after years of falling pupil numbers and a sustained “inadequate” rating by Ofsted.
Officers believe the site is suitable for a new special school due to its layout and location in a central part of the county. There are no planned changes to the community library and children’s centre on the same site.
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Developer withdraws 88 home plan in Bishop Monkton
Developers have withdrawn plans for 88 new homes in Bishop Monkton.
Avant Homes tabled the plan for land off Moor Road in the village.
It would have seen a mixture of 53 market and 35 affordable homes built at the site.
However, the application proved controversial, with residents at Bishop Monkton Action Group objecting to the plan.
In a letter sent to North Yorkshire Council, the group raised concern over drainage at the site and described it as “hopelessly unfit for purpose”.
More than 250 people wrote to the authority to object to the plan.
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A spokesperson for Bishop Monkton Action Group said the decision to withdraw the plan was “a victory for the village”.
In a planning statement to the council last year, Carter Jonas, which submitted the plan on behalf of Alfa Homes, described the site as a “highly sustainable location”.
It added:
North Yorkshire councillors back £11.2m Harrogate Station Gateway project“As discussed, the proposal is in a sustainable and accessible location within reasonable walking distance of bus services and local services in Bishop Monkton.”
Senior North Yorkshire councillors have backed plans to submit a full business case for the £11.2 million Harrogate Station Gateway scheme.
North Yorkshire Council’s executive met this morning and voted unanimously to approve the plan, which moves the project a step closer.
Harrogate and Knaresborough councillors voted to support it at a meeting on May 5.
Today’s decision means a 300-metre stretch of Station Parade will be reduced to single lane traffic and James Street partly pedestrianised to encourage cycling and walking.
Station Square will undergo a major overhaul, with the ‘little temple’ outside Victoria Shopping Centre destroyed.
Cllr Keane Duncan, Conservative executive councillor for highways, said today that work on the project is expected to start in winter this year.
However, Cllr Pat Marsh, Liberal Democrat chair of the Harrogate and Knaresborough Area Constituency Committee, urged the councillors not to go-ahead with the project.
She said:
“Do not go forward with this scheme. This scheme starts nowhere and goes nowhere.”
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Meanwhile, Cllr Duncan confirmed that the council had received a 2,000-signature petition objecting to the plan.
Liberal Democrat Cllr Chris Aldred, who represents High Harrogate and Kingsley, said there had been “a lot of hyperbole” about the scheme. He called for councillors to “focus on the actuality”.
He said:
“The scheme as described does have some benefits.
“I think I am right in saying that there is a small carbon gain.”
Cllr Aldred called for the council to “talk with residents and businesses” when implementing the project.
Meanwhile, Conservative Cllr Sam Gibbs, who represents Valley Gardens and Central Harrogate, said while the scheme did divide opinion, he felt it should be progressed.
He said:
“I am here to get on with this scheme. We cannot kick this down the road any longer.”
The move comes as Karl Battersby, the council’s corporate director of environment, said in a report that the project would arrest town centre decline by increasing footfall, even though many businesses remain opposed.
There are also concerns about other aspects of the scheme, including congestion and parking, and the impact on the town centre during construction.
But Mr Battersby suggested the gateway could be the start of a wider town centre redevelopment. His report said the project will “provide a central active travel ‘hub’ from which ‘spokes’ of further improvements can radiate”.
However, Mr Battersby also warned that if the final cost exceeds budget, savings would be made by either reviewing the materials or “descoping” the project.
Harrogate businesses to vote this week on future of BIDBusinesses in Harrogate will begin voting this week on whether to continue to fund a town centre group that aims to increase footfall and boost trade.
Currently 462 town centre businesses with a rateable value above £19,000 pay a levy to Harrogate Business Improvement District.
They agreed to do so for five years after a ballot in 2018 and firms are now being asked whether to fund it for a second five-year term.
The BID spends the money on additional services, such as street cleaning and Christmas lights, to those provided by local authorities.

These planters were funded by the BID.
If businesses vote ‘no’, the BID will cease to exist at the end of the year.
Matthew Chapman, chief executive of the BID, launched the organisation’s term two business plan in April at the Doubletree by Hilton Harrogate Majestic Hotel.
The plan reveals the BID is forecast to have £510,000 income a year, which it would spend on activities such as its street ranger Chris Ashby, street cleaning, Christmas lights, match-funded grants, street entertainment, targeted free parking and floral baskets and planters.
Ripon, York, Leeds, Skipton, Ilkley, Otley, Bradford and Northallerton all have bids but Knaresborough rejected one.
Council to remain neutral
Five years ago, Harrogate Borough Council voted in favour of the BID when it used its block vote for businesses it ran.
But it no longer exists and North Yorkshire Council, which replaced it this month, has said it will abstain as it wants businesses to decide.
Karl Battersby, corporate director for environment at the council, resigned as a BID director on April 28.
The ballot will run from June 1 to 28 and the result will be announced on June 29.
Pic shows: Dan Siddle, the general manager of the Crown Hotel, and Primark manager Andrea Thornborrow who are the current chair and deputy chair respectively of the BID.
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North Yorkshire Council staff could strike over pay
Members of Unison who work for North Yorkshire Council have been asked to back strike action after the local government union said the latest pay offer amounts to “yet another pay cut” in real terms.
Unison is asking for a pay rise of 2% above the retail price index (RPI) for 2023 which would result in an increase of 12.7% per employee.
However, the the National Joint Council (NJC) for local government services, which determines pay for council workers, has offered a flat rate increase of £1,925.
RPI is one of the two key measures for inflation, which the Office for National Statistics said this week was at 8.7% in the year to April. This was lower than in March when it was 10.1% but above the 8.2% figure some economists had expected.
David Houlgate, Unison branch secretary for Harrogate, said that over the last 12 years council staff have lost 25% from their pay when measured against the RPI.
Unison, which also represents school staff in North Yorkshire, closes the ballot on strike action on July 4.
Mr Houlgate said:
“Unison has been campaigning for a decent pay rise for council and school workers. We called for a pay increase of inflation plus 2% – based on the Treasury’s annual forecast for RPI for 2023, this would amount to approximately 12.7%.
“However, the local government employers have responded with an offer of a flat rate increase of £1,925, with less for part-time and term-time workers, which when compared to the rate of inflation amounts to yet another pay cut.
“This simply is not good enough when public service workers are relying on food banks and struggling to afford heating. Furthermore, poor pay is a major factor in the recruitment and retention issues that impact on these vital public services.
“So we are asking members to vote for strike action. This is not something we do lightly or, for that matter, often and it’s always our last resort, but after years of declining pay, the feeling is enough is enough.”
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Viper Rooms owner says Harrogate landlords need to ‘get real’ with rent
The man who owned Harrogate’s last nightclub has spoken of his frustration at trying to operate in the town.
It is now six months since Viper Rooms was re-possessed by landlord North Yorkshire County Council.
It has remained empty since, despite repeated claims by the council of “significant interest from potential tenants”.
Viper Rooms owner Paul Kinsey said he had been in protracted negotiations over a new lease with the council before it re-possessed the building.
Mr Kinsey added he still owned the fixtures and fittings and had continued to negotiate with the council about re-occupying the site.
But a deal has not materialised and his frustration has prompted him to speak out.
The Viper Rooms unit was part of the grade two listed Royal Baths, which the council bought for £9 million in 2018. The baths also includes the former Potting Shed unit, which has been vacant for five years.

Still vacant: the former Potting Shed and Viper Rooms — both part of the Royal Baths.
Their ongoing closure led Mr Kinsey to claim councillors “haven’t got the commercial experience or knowledge” to run large commercial assets and they were making unrealistic demands on tenants.
He said he spent £370,000 refurbishing the club pre-covid and the council was now requesting £150,000 a year on rent and service charge even though the landscape had changed post-pandemic. He said:
“If they think they can get £150,000, good luck to them. It’s a difficult market. The council grossly overpaid for the Royal Baths without doing proper due diligence. It was a trophy asset.
“I can understand them wanting to get a good deal because of that but they have to get real.”
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‘Crippling overheads’ on Parliament Street
Mr Kinsey, who lives near Wetherby, said he still wanted to have a venue in Harrogate and had his eye on one site.
But he questioned the appeal of the town to leisure operators, adding the main reason he was so keen to return to the Royal Baths was because he owned the fixtures and fittings and had spent so much on refurbishing it pre-covid.
He said many commercial landlords over-estimated the value of Harrogate and pointed to the number of failed ventures on Parliament Street as evidence of “crippling overheads”.
“I don’t think Harrogate is on many people’s target list. You get more bang for your bucks in other places.
“People who don’t know the area believe the streets are paved with gold. There is a good wealth profile but they spend elsewhere — Leeds, London or abroad.
“Look at how many businesses haven’t been able to make it work on Parliament Street. These are good operators, not cowboys, but even they couldn’t make it work.”
The Stray Ferret asked North Yorkshire Council, which succeeded North Yorkshire County Council on April 1, if it had a response to Mr Kinsey’s claims but it did not issue one.

The Viper Rooms site is being advertised
Asked for an update on the Viper Rooms, which is now being advertised by agents Savills, and the Potting Shed, it said it had nothing to add to its last statement two months ago, when Gary Fielding, the council’s corporate director for strategic resources, said:
“A unit which did house the Viper Rooms is continuing to attract significant interest, and an agent has been appointed to co-ordinate discussions with potential tenants.
“A lease has been signed for the final unit and a dialogue with the tenant is continuing to establish when the new venture will be launched.”
The council’s £9 million spending on the Royal Baths also included the JD Wetherspoon pub and the Royal Baths Chinese Restaurant.
Tories maintain slim majority on North Yorkshire Council after by-electionThe Conservatives have maintained their slender majority of two on North Yorkshire Council after a by-election yesterday.
Tony Randerson was elected to the Eastfield division in Scarborough with 499 votes — 46 per cent of the vote.
Liberal Democrat Erica Willett was second with 281 votes and Labour’s David Thompson polled 169 votes to finish third.
It means the Conservatives still hold 46 of the 90 seats on North Yorkshire Council.
The Liberal Democrats are the next largest party with 13 councillors, followed by Labour with 11 and the Independent group with nine.
The Greens have five councillors and there are four unaffiliated independents. There is also one Liberal Party councillor. Conservative candidate Eric Batts received 69 votes in fourth.
The Scarborough by-election was caused when Cllr Randerson resigned from the Labour Party after criticising the party’s direction and leadership under Sir Keir Starmer.
According to his Facebook page, he now represents the Social Justice Party but his affiliation on the ballot paper was left blank.
Richard Flinton, the returning officer for North Yorkshire Council, declared the result at the count in Scarborough.
