Police have closed off the Pinewoods after suspected gunfire was heard this evening.
Someone in the area told the Stray Ferret they heard three “very loud” bangs, which they presumed to be gunshots, at around 5pm.
They said a police helicopter has been circling the woodland since then.
The Stray Ferret spoke to one police officer who said armed police had “contained” the area but did not give any further information. It is not known if anyone has been hurt.
We will have more information on this developing story as we get it.
Harlow Hill ‘men’s shed’ gets to work repairing Pinewoods sign
Members of Harlow Hill’s new ‘men’s shed’ have been busy repairing a damaged display board in the Pinewoods.
The men’s shed was set up in February for men in the Harlow Hill area to boost mental health and tackle loneliness in the area.
Many of their members have woodwork skills so the charity Pinewoods Conservation Group asked if they could help out repair a display board that helps visitors navigate the 96-acre woodland.
For their first job, men’s shed members have spent time over the last few weekends replacing rotten timbers and putting the board back in place.
Men’s sheds are part of a wider organisation of ‘sheds’ that began in Australia. Their goal is to create a space for older men to come together to create and build while making friends. Women are welcome, too.
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John Hart, who set up Harlow Hill men’s shed said:
“Our members know the Pinewoods well and were pleased to be able to help the Pinewoods Conservation Group. This was our first official job the group had carried out and are very pleased with the result. We know like many charities funding can be challenging so we hope there are more opportunities for us to support local groups”.
Neil Hind, chair of The Pinewoods Conservation Group said:
Harrogate Spring Water: New details about how council makes money from bottled water plant“We heard that the group was up and running so were delighted that they agreed to help us. Originally, we thought a whole new display board maybe required but with some ingenuity from the group they were able to repair the board in situ saving us considerable funds. The display board should now be operational for a good number of years to come.”
New details have emerged about Harrogate Spring Water’s rental agreements with the borough council, as the company has still yet to reveal latest expansion plans for its bottled water plant.
After being refused permission to expand onto Rotary Wood in January 2021, the company said it would submit new plans “in the coming weeks”.
But eight months on after that statement last July, there is still no sign of another planning application from the firm which faced a backlash from campaigners, residents and councillors after having its proposals recommended for approval by Harrogate Borough Council.
The council has now revealed new details of a turnover-based rent agreement that it has had with Harrogate Spring Water since the company first opened its Harlow Hill site in 2002.
In response to a Freedom of Information request, the council refused to say how much money it has received as the details are deemed to be of “commercial value”.
But it did disclose for the first time that it receives 0.5% of Harrogate Spring Water’s annual turnover.
And when calculated using the company’s turnover figures, the Local Democracy Reporting Service has found that the council has received an estimated £853,033 over an 18-year period.
This is on top of an annual base rent which was initially agreed at £10,000 in 2002 and has since climbed to £15,232 following a review every five years.

Aerial view of Harrogate Spring Water. Pic: Pinewoods Conservation Group
Conflict of interest questions
These financial benefits for the council have previously raised questions over a potential conflict of interest in its decision-making for Harrogate Spring Water’s expansion plans.
But the council has repeatedly said there is no such risk and that it has followed the correct procedures when dealing with the proposals.
A council spokesperson said:
“As we’ve said numerous times, there is no conflict of interest.
“Land/site ownership is not a material consideration when an application is considered.
“It is normal practice for planning authorities to take decisions on planning applications relating to land in its own ownership.
“There are no requirements nationally for a planning application – whether it is on council-owned land or not – to be determined by another local planning authority or other mechanism.”
The council also confirmed it has no other turnover-based rent agreements with any other of its tenants.
And it said the rent from Harrogate Spring Water is used to “deliver valuable front-line services across the Harrogate district.”
125-year lease
This comes as emails obtained in a separate Freedom of Information request show the council has said it would consider selling Rotary Wood to Harrogate Spring Water.
The site is subject to a 125-year lease which is reportedly worth £1.13 million.
When the council recommended the company’s expansion plans for approval last year, it said there were “significant economic benefits of the proposed development, including job creation, other financial benefits to the district and the enhancement of the Harrogate brand.”
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But this was not a view shared by campaigners who argued that in the face of a climate emergency, it was vital that the council preserved green spaces and not replaced them with a larger factory producing plastic bottled water.
This argument was backed by members of the council’s own planning committee who accused the authority of putting “profit and plastic before impact on the environment”.
Harrogate Spring Water was first granted outline planning permission to expand its bottling site onto Rotary Wood – which was planted by children and forms part of the 40-hectare Pinewoods forest – in 2017.
Two years later, the company submitted a revised application that was 40% larger than the one originally approved, but then failed to win full permission.
In a new statement issued this week, Harrogate Spring Water said it is currently “evaluating its plans” but did not hint at when its latest proposals could be revealed.
The company also said it is “committed to working with the public” and “will continue to keep people engaged and informed as part of the process”.
Rotary Wood plans
Pinewoods Conservation Group – the charity responsible for the conservation of the Pinewoods forest – has been at the forefront of the objections to the company’s expansion over Rotary Wood.
The charity said there have been “no proactive discussions” from Harrogate Spring Water over its latest plans which it said should be scrapped altogether.
A charity spokesperson said:
Plans for housing at Harlow Nurseries emerge“With each year that passes the Rotary Wood area of the Pinewoods becomes a more mature woodland with increasing bird and plant life, improving the biodiversity of the area and improving air quality.
“The continued delays are however now impacting on any future plans for that area of the Pinewoods. We know, for example, that footpath works are much needed but are reluctant to potentially waste limited charity funds.
“We hope that with continued public pressure on unsustainable businesses such as Harrogate Spring Water, and this community site specifically, that any expansion plans are now abandoned.”
Two potential plans for housing at Harlow Nurseries in Harrogate have emerged.
The site next to the Pinewoods is owned by Harrogate Borough Council and sells plants, pots and compost to the public.
However, the council’s Harrogate district Local Plan 2014-35, which outlines where development can take place, says 40 homes can be built there. The nursery will relocate if a development goes ahead.
Two options for how it could look were displayed at Pinewoods Conservation Group‘s annual general meeting on Monday by the charity’s chair Neil Hind. Both contain more than 40 homes.
The plans were drawn up by consultants on behalf of the council.
The first option includes 57 homes that are a mix of family homes and apartments.
The second option includes 62 homes and apartments and has less garden space than option one.
Both options include 30% ‘affordable’ homes. The two plans also say the development could achieve net-zero emissions, but don’t give further details on how this might be achieved.


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In September 2020, the council appointed three external consultants to draw up plans for the nurseries, as well as for two other brownfield sites in Harrogate.
The consultants will be paid with funding secured by the council in 2018.
The council received £200,000 from the Leeds City Region Business Rates Pool and £36,000 from the York, North Yorkshire and East Riding Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP).
Impact on Pinewoods
The plans could still change before the final report is published in May.
It would need to be rubber-stamped by councillors before moving to the next stage, which could involve the sale of the site to a developer.
Speaking at the meeting, Mr Hind said:
“My view is there is no point objecting, it’s in the Local Plan, it’s a brownfield site and it’s going to happen. Our role is to ensure it has as little impact on the Pinewoods as it can have.”

Pinewoods Conservation Group’s AGM on Monday evening.
Harrogate Spring Water
The AGM was attended by around 25 people. Also on the agenda was Harrogate Spring Water’s hopes to expand its bottling plant on Harlow Moor Road.
The Stray Ferret reported this week that Harrogate Borough Council has said it would consider selling Rotary Wood to the company, which is preparing to submit a new planning application.
Mr Hind told the meeting that Pinewoods Conservation Group had lawyers on hand to ensure due process on any sale was followed.
Harrogate council open to selling Rotary Wood to Harrogate Spring WaterHarrogate Borough Council has said it would consider selling Rotary Wood to Harrogate Spring Water, as the company looks to expand its bottling plant on Harlow Moor Road.
The move was revealed in an email sent by Trevor Watson, the council’s director of economy and culture, to HSW in October 2021. It was obtained via a freedom of information request.
HSW leases the land where it is based, on Harlow Moor Road, from the council. The company pays the council ground rent of £13,000 a year plus turnover rent revenue, but this figure has never been publicly revealed.
The council is also the planning authority and in January last year councillors rejected a bid by HSW to expand its bottling plant into Rotary Wood.
The woodland was planted by the Rotary Club of Harrogate and local schoolchildren and is part of the council-owned Pinewoods.
In July 2021, Harrogate Spring Water said it would table new proposals to expand the bottling plant ‘within weeks’ but eight months on it has yet to do so.
Asset of Community Value
Pinewoods Conservation Group successfully registered the Pinewoods as an Asset of Community Value in 2015.
This means if the council decided to sell any of it, it must pause any sale for six months whilst it gives local community groups the chance to make an offer to buy it.
The email from the HSW employee, whose name is redacted, to Mr Watson reveals that representatives from HSW had a ‘helpful’ meeting with Conservative council leader Richard Cooper and deputy leader Graham Swift in September 2021. The ACV status of the woodland was discussed.
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In the email to Mr Watson, the HSW employee asked about the process for “releasing the land of this status”.
The email says as HSW decided to ‘do right by the town’ by not appealing last January’s refusal to grant planning permission, it asks the council to ‘lend your assistance’ around the ACV status of the wood, which it would like removed to speed up its planning application. It adds:
“A key element of the new application would be to try to expediate the process of releasing this land of its status, in order to avoid an unnecessarily protracted period of consultation and media scrutiny. I firmly believe this would be in the best interest of both parties.”
Open to offers
Mr Watson’s reply said that any sale of land with ACV status must follow due process but the authority would be open to offers.
Mr Watson added:
“The timing of all this therefore largely rests with HSW, in terms of how soon you wish to commence negotiations for the land and ultimately whether an in-principle agreement can be reached on potential disposal terms.”
He said informal discussions between the council and the business about buying the land took place “a number of years ago” but terms could not be reached.

Harrogate Spring Water’s head office on Harlow Moor Road in Harrogate.
Mr Watson said if a bid came in from HSW for the land, it would be subject to the usual six-month consultation period.
“We would therefore see the ball being in the HSW court in terms of formally approaching the council with a new, meaningful proposal for our consideration.
“If and when disposal terms are agreed in principle, the ACV process would then be formally triggered and we would carefully follow all the legal processes required, including public consultation as appropriate.”
Planning process ‘needs to be followed’
A Harrogate Spring Water spokesperson said:
“Harrogate Spring Water is evaluating its plans for the site and will communicate any update as and when that occurs. We are committed to working with the public and we will continue to keep people engaged and informed as part of the process”.
A Harrogate Borough Council spokeswoman said:
“This matter remains entirely in the hands of Harrogate Spring Water. We wrote to them back in Autumn 2021 setting out a factual response to questions that they asked us about our decision-making processes. We made very clear that there are distinct, statutory processes that we need to follow and that planning and land disposal processes are, quite rightly, dealt with as very separate matters. We have not had a response or any further discussions with the company on either the planning or land ownership situation”.
A spokesperson for Pinewoods Conservation Group said
No.3: Harrogate Spring Water’s bid to expand in the Pinewoods“With each year that passes the Rotary Wood area of The Pinewoods becomes a more mature woodland with increasing bird and plant life, improving the biodiversity of the area and improving air quality.
“We are aware that Cllr Swift has been vocal in his support of this planned development but would be very concerned if any promises had been made to expedite any part of this complicated process and avoid full transparency and consultation. We also note that Cllr Cooper has recently been attending planning committee meeting and would hope he would now excuse himself from any future planning committee that considered these planning matters.
“However, we are somewhat comforted by comments from council officers restating the legal and planning processes that needs to be followed with respect to disposal of public land, and land that is protected as an ‘asset of community value’.
“Our lawyers will continue to monitor progress with interest.”
In this article, which is part of a series on the 15 stories in the Harrogate district that shaped 2021, we look at the controversy surrounding Harrogate Spring Water’s expansion plans.
January saw one of the most controversial planning applications in Harrogate for years.
Harrogate Spring Water applied to expand its bottling plant from 0.77 hectares to 0.94 hectares, which would have meant destroying public woodland planted by local families in the area of Pinewoods known as Rotary Wood.
To compensate, the company offered to replant trees, create scrubland and build a pond on private land behind RHS Harlow Carr.
But the idea of felling trees to create more plastic bottles generated anger and triggered a wider debate around how businesses should operate in the age of climate change.
Articles appeared in the national press and there was high-profile intervention from TV presenter Julia Bradbury, who urged the company to think again.

Harrogate Spring Water’s headquarters.
Hundreds of people watched a livestream of Harrogate Borough Council planning committee when it voted on the application on January 26 — considerably more than the usual 20 or 30 viewers for a council meeting.
They heard passionate interjections from councillors and residents opposing the plans, as well as representatives of Harrogate Spring Water saying the expansion was needed to grow a thriving local business and that felled trees would be replaced on a 2-to-1 basis.
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‘Not just any wood’
Sam Gibbs, the Conservative councillor for Valley Gardens, called Rotary Wood “not just any wood” and said he had spoken to many local residents who were “confused, upset, or angry” about the application.
Neil Hind, chair of Pinewoods Conservation Group, a charity that preserves the Pinewoods, said the “world has changed” since covid, which “has shown the importance of our green spaces”.
In the end, eight councillors on the council’s 12-person planning committee voted to refuse the plans, and four abstained.
After the meeting, Conservative councillor Jim Clark said he hoped the debate around the bottling plant had shown that local issues can be “at the forefront of climate change”.
What happened next?
Campaigners, such as Harrogate woman Sarah Gibbs, who had dressed as a tree outside the council offices each week to protest against the plans, were jubilant. But the vote wasn’t the end of the matter.
Harrogate Spring Water signalled its intention to submit fresh expansion plans.
James Cain, managing director, said in July.
“Our vision is to create a sustainable future for our business as one that supports high quality jobs, drives prosperity in the town and looks after nature.”

The company already has outline permission dating back to 2016 to expand its bottling plant, but the company said it was working on a completely new application and the old application would be disregarded.
But several months on, no new planning application has been submitted.
Organisations such as Pinewoods Conservation Group and the Rotary Club, which planted the trees in Rotary Wood, are still awaiting Harrogate Spring Water’s next move.
A spokesperson for Harrogate Spring Water said:
Community groups in the dark about Harrogate Spring Water’s Pinewoods plan“Harrogate Spring Water is still in the process of talking to all relevant parties. We will communicate any update as and when it happens.”
In July, Harrogate Spring Water promised to publish “within weeks” details of a new planning application to expand its bottling plant in the Pinewoods. But as the end of the year approaches, it looks no nearer to being made public.
The company’s pledge followed January’s high-profile refusal to expand the plant, which would have meant destroying public woodland planted by local families in the area of Pinewoods known as Rotary Wood.
To compensate, Harrogate Spring Water offered to replant trees, create scrubland and build a pond on private land behind Harlow Carr Gardens.
But the loss of trees at Rotary Wood provoked a major backlash and councillors on Harrogate Borough Council‘s planning committee voted overwhelmingly to reject it.
Harrogate Spring Water already has outline permission dating back to 2016 to expand its bottling plant, but the company said in July it was working on a completely new application and the old application would be disregarded.
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The company pledged to consult with the community before pursuing a formal planning application to the council.
However, the Stray Ferret has been told that no meaningful talks with community groups have taken place since January’s refusal.
Groups that are still in the dark about what the new application will look like include the Rotary Club, which planted the trees in Rotary Wood, and Pinewoods Conservation Group, a charity that works to preserve the Pinewoods.
A spokesperson for Harrogate Spring Water said:
Christmas-themed bird box walk created for Pinewoods“Harrogate Spring Water is still in the process of talking to all relevant parties. We will communicate any update as and when it happens.”
A new Christmas-themed advent walk has been created in the Pinewoods, featuring decorated bird boxes for visitors to find.
Pinewoods Conservation Group, a charity that promotes the conservation of the woodlands, has teamed up with Ripon-based charity Jennyruth Workshops for the project.
Jennyruth Workshops, which uses craft to help people with learning disabilities, has built and decorated 24 numbered bird boxes, plus a few extras. Each box will be displayed with a plaque showing the name of the worker who hand painted it.
Lucy Hind, who organised the event for the Pinewoods Conservation Group, said:
“We know residents and visitors alike continue to enjoy the Pinewoods, so we wanted to add some additional interest coming up to Christmas. These new bird boxes are a great addition and in line with our conservation efforts and gives us opportunity to support Jennyruth Workshop too.”
Nicky Newell, chief executive of Jennyruth Workshop, added:
“The Jennyruth Workshop team has really enjoyed being part of this project. The Christmas theme allowed our workers to be very creative with some amazing designs being produced.
“We really appreciate The Pinewoods for involving us and allowing us to showcase a small range of the products we produce and sell.”
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To help fund the event, Pinewoods Conservation Group is looking for 24 people, businesses, or organisations to sponsor a bird box at £20 each.
In January, following the event, supporters will be able to collect their bird box to keep or donate it to The Pinewoods to support their ongoing conservation efforts.
Stray Views: Older people in Harrogate are being ignoredStray Views is a weekly column giving you the chance to have your say on issues affecting the Harrogate district. It is an opinion column and does not reflect the views of the Stray Ferret. Send your views to letters@thestrayferret.co.uk.
Older people’s needs in Harrogate are being ignored
It’s all very well trying to encourage cycles and walking, but what about the aged population in Harrogate? Does no-one care any more about the largest population in Harrogate, who cannot walk everywhere or who are in wheelchairs and need to be as near as they can to what they have struggled to get out to do? And how many use the cycle lanes anyway, bad weather puts everyone under cover in a car?
It all started to go wrong when they made West Park a one way thoroughfare. When Ripon traffic could drive straight through it saved all that mess of having to do a loop through and round the town to get out to Leeds.
Harrogate planning has a lot to answer to, both in this and in housing and the plans they pass.
Lesley Dalton, Harrogate
Pollution on Cold Bath Road
Regarding your story about pollution and Western Primary School, closure of the road during school drop up and pick up times would reduce car pollution at these times which would be beneficial for the children
Richard Blackshaw, Harrogate
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Sheep killed at Pinewoods
Regarding the recent report of sheep being killed on land adjacent to the Pinewoods. Perhaps the temporary signs being put up could also remind dog owners that farmers can legally shoot any dog caught attacking sheep.
Richard Stobbs, Harrogate
A lovely gesture by a bakery
I would like to give a heartfelt thank you to Avenue Bakery in Harrogate for making stottie cakes for my elderly father who has dementia.
Dad had been reminiscing about stottie cakes and I popped into Avenue Bakery and asked them if it was something they could make for him. They made him two and gifted them to him .
Such a lovely gesture for an old man and he enjoyed them so much.
Joanne Bolton, Knox

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Warning for dog walkers after four sheep killed near PinewoodsDog walkers in the Pinewoods have been warned to keep their dogs on leads after a spate of attacks left four sheep dead.
The attacks took place in a field behind RHS Harlow Carr.
The charity Pinewoods Conservation Group, which promotes the maintenance and conservation of the Pinewoods, is to put up temporary signs reminding dog walkers to keep their animals under control.
A spokesperson said:
“We are very disappointed to hear about the killing of four sheep adjacent to the Pinewoods. We would remind all dog walkers to keep their animals under control at all times.
“This does not only protect these sheep, but also our many visitors and varied wildlife. Temporary signage will be erected on the main path from RHS Harlow Carr to Harlow Moor Road to enforce this message.”
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Dogs can kill or injure sheep, even if they don’t catch them, because the stress can cause sheep to die or miscarry lambs.
Sheep fleeing from dogs are often killed or seriously injured by their panicked attempts to escape, causing damage to fences and field boundaries in the process.
Figures from farming organisation the NFU said that the cost of farm animals killed by dogs rose by over 10% last year to an estimated £1.3m.
Rebecca Davidson, rural affairs specialist at NFU Mutual, said:
“Dog attacks are easily preventable if owners keep their pets under control and on a lead when livestock may be nearby. Doing so keeps sheep and their lambs safe from harm and stops a country walk turning into carnage.”
