Stray Views is a weekly column giving you the chance to have your say on issues affecting the Harrogate district. It is an opinion column and does not reflect the views of the Stray Ferret. See below for details on how to contribute.
Harrogate is in trouble and needs to wake up
I can only say what I see. I am originally from Birmingham and still have my business there. We lived in Cottingley, near Bradford for 11 years before moving to Starbeck in 2018 to be near our daughter and grandkids.
Since living here, I don’t see any difference between Harrogate, Bradford or Birmingham. In fact, Starbeck is a lot worse. It’s certainly the worst place we have lived in for over 40 years and most of that time was around Birmingham, including Erdington, Longbridge and Bournville — where my business is.
The drug problem here is horrific (like everywhere), and almost everywhere I can smell pot smoking. Harrogate is overcrowded, and the roads into the town are ridiculously busy, as bad as the big cities, mainly due to the poor planning of the town over the decades.
I lived in Redditch in 1989-1990 and Harrogate compares to that time, but probably worse. Prospect Road area is now renowned for drugs, antisocial behaviour, supermarket trolleys everywhere daily, and broken glass and litter strewn everywhere, and if it is cleared up it’s back the same within days.
Harrogate town centre is just like any other which is struggling, and no one is doing anything about it other than seemingly making things worse with wrong decision after wrong decision. Don’t get me wrong, it is still nice, but the spiral is seemingly downwards and it needs radical common sense thinking to turn the town around.
Is Harrogate in decline? It seems it’s been in decline for a long time, and the town needs to wake up because as an outsider if this is my experience of it then the town is already in trouble.
Martin Morris, Starbeck
Harrogate is clean, tidy and beautiful
I read some of the comments about “is Harrogate in decline”? I recently moved to Harrogate after spending over 20 years living and working in Northampton. To me Harrogate is a lovely place to live.
It is clean, tidy, mostly well organised and has beautiful buildings and parklands. The hospitality industry is excellent. I am so happy I moved here and the locals are genuinely so friendly.
A note of caution: I went back recently to Northampton for a few days. They are one of the towns / cities trialling e-scooter hire schemes. They should be avoided at all costs until proper well informed regulations are in place and enforced. Scooter riders are a law unto themselves, riding on pavements with no helmets and multiple riders. They are then just abandoned on pavements until they’re next hired, causing blockages and generally look a mess and tacky.
I hope Harrogate resists such schemes until proper regulations are in place and enforced. You have a lovely town and i am very happy to be part of it now.
Peter Hannon, Harrogate
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Devolution will lead to more waste and incompetence
Any councillors expressing regret over the government’s decision to choose to have a super-council for North Yorkshire should focus instead on their own faults for backing the present arrangements, which have never worked very well anyway.
Now we have a proposed local authority, which will be even more unaccountable to the public and which will only consult on its own terms.
Experience shows that there are no savings with large unitary bodies, only more waste and incompetence in handling larger revenues. You only have to listen to the regular facts uncovered by the TaxPayers’ Alliance and similar to see what we are in for now.
Robert Jenrick, the Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government, has overruled many public concerns and is going the wrong way here too. It’s up to councillors and MPs to make him realise there are no advantages to Joe Public — only poor control of costs
John Holder, Harrogate
Harrogate social distancing planters find a happy home in Starbeck
Six of Harrogate’s social distancing planters now have pride of place on Starbeck High Street.
Andrew Hart, who owns the local post office and recently set up Starbeck Community Group, made a bid to Harrogate Borough Council to take them to Starbeck which was accepted.
After receiving a pavement licence from North Yorkshire County Council, the wooden boxes were delivered to Starbeck yesterday.
They now sit in front of the abandoned former McColl’s building, which was burnt out in a fire three years ago. Planters have also been placed in front of St Andrew’s Church.
Mr Hart paid £40 per planter for HBC to put fresh plants in them.
The planters were removed from James Street and Albert Street last week. They were both loved and loathed and came to symbolise the debate that surrounded not just covid but the high street economy, parking and pedestrianisation.
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The council bought them after receiving £144,411 from the European Regional Development Fund to boost high streets during the covid pandemic.
A condition of taking the planters is they have to retain ERDF branding, and Mr Hart said the council will be sending over the logos soon. They must be returned to HBC in March 2022.
Mr Hart said:
“I would like to thank North Yorkshire County Council and Harrogate Borough Council for their magnificent support in this project.”


Six of the social distancing planters that were in Harrogate town centre during covid restrictions look set to be moved to Starbeck High Street.
The planters, which occupied town centre parking spaces to the annoyance of some traders, were removed from James Street and Albert Street last week.
Harrogate Borough Council subsequently put out a call to local business owners interested in loaning the wooden boxes.
Andrew Hart, who owns the post office in Starbeck, said the council had agreed this morning to loan him six planters, providing he can get a pavement licence from North Yorkshire County Council, which he hopes will be a formality.
Mr Hart plans to put the planters outside the former McColl’s supermarket building, which was destroyed by fire three years ago. He said it has been an “eyesore” ever since.
Mr Hart said there would be enough space on the pavement for wheelchairs and prams to pass.
He added:
“The planters will distract the eye [from the McColl’s building], especially for people driving through Starbeck.”
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The flowers have been wilting in the sun at the council’s nursery on Harlow Hill in Harrogate because the council said it did not have the resources to water them properly.
Mr Hart has agreed to pay the council £40 per planter to put fresh flowers in the boxes. Once they arrive in Starbeck, they will be watered and maintained by volunteers.
The council bought the planters after receiving £144,411 from the European Regional Development Fund to boost high streets during the covid pandemic.
However, as a condition of using the EU money, the planters cannot be placed on privately-owned land and must be branded with the ERDF and HMG logos before being returned to the council by March next year.
‘I’ve missed this so much’: Delight as Starbeck Baths finally reopensThere was an emotional return for visitors and staff at Starbeck Baths today, as it finally reopened following the easing of covid restrictions.
The pool, which was built in 1870, had been closed since December 2020 despite the government allowing pools to reopen on April 12.
Harrogate Borough Council, which owns the site, said the delay was due to staffing problems as well as social distancing restrictions.
The Stray Ferret visited this afternoon and spoke to staff as well as local resident Jean Padgett, who has been a regular swimmer at Starbeck Baths for over 40 years.
She described the baths as “small, warm, and ideal”, adding:
“I have missed this so much. I live locally, so if they close this it’s like signing my death warrant. My fitness has dropped over the last 18 months.”
There were murmurings in Starbeck that Harrogate Borough Council would never reopen the pool.
Ms Padgett added:
“I’d be devastated if it was closed.”
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- Calls for ‘dangerous’ Starbeck junction to be improved
Sarah Bowyer, who has worked at the baths for 26 years, described today as “emotional”.
She said the morning session was well attended and she was expecting to see more familiar faces in the coming days and weeks.
She added:
“We’ve had lots of phone calls from regulars.”
The baths are used not only for exercise but also for socialising too. Ms Bowyer said it was a lifeline for many residents in Starbeck, particularly older people who live on their own.
Jenny Paish worked at the baths for 30 years before recently retiring. She was helping out today and agreed it was a vital part of the community.
She said:
Police tell of ‘extensive difficulties’ at two Starbeck homes“It’s like a big family, it’s been massively missed.”
Police told a court yesterday there had been “extensive difficulties” at two homes in Starbeck due to drugs and anti-social behaviour.
North Yorkshire Police and Harrogate Borough Council jointly applied to Leeds Magistrates Court for closure orders on 19 and 31 Avenue Grove, Starbeck.
The court granted three-month partial closure orders on the properties, let by landlord John Willis, which means only Mr Willis and one person at each property can enter the premises until midnight on October 12.
Mr Willis was in court for the hearing.
Simon Mallett, a barrister acting for North Yorkshire Police, told the court there had been “a considerable amount of disorder in Avenue Grove” and drugs had been found in the two properties.
He added:
“There have been extensive difficulties arising from people in the properties or visiting the properties.
“We have received a very considerable number of complaints from residents about anti-social behaviour and drug use emanating from both properties.”
The court heard that all the tenants had left the properties except the two men allowed to stay.
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- Police and council bid to close two Starbeck houses over crime
- Mayfield Grove: house at centre of crime concerns allowed to re-open
Julia Stack, community safety and CCTV manager at Harrogate Borough Council, said in a statement afterwards:
“This outcome should act as a reminder that we will not tolerate this type of anti-social behaviour.
“I want to reassure local residents that we will continue to monitor the situation and take further action if necessary.
Inspector Nicola Colbourne of North Yorkshire Police said in a statement afterwards:
“This action once again demonstrates our commitment to ensuring Harrogate remains one of the safest towns to live in.”
North Yorkshire Police and Harrogate Borough Council successfully applied for a three-month closure order on 38 Mayfield Grove, Harrogate, another property let by Mr Willis, in March. This order expired last month.
Harrogate weightlifter in pole position for Commonwealth GamesHarrogate weightlifter Jack Dobson has become British champion and put himself in pole position for a place at next year’s Commonwealth Games.
Jack, 27, who went to Starbeck Primary Academy and Harrogate High School, achieved a 310kg total at the British Weightlifting Championships in Twickenham, London — 15 kg more than the runner-up.
It means he is currently British Weightlifting’s top pick for the England men’s 96 kg class at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham but there are two more qualifying events at which rival lifters will have the opportunity to better his total and win selection.
In his first competition for two years because of covid, Jack hoisted 138 kg in the snatch and 172 kg in the clean and jerk, which are both slightly below his personal bests.

Jack Dobson (centre) winning the British Championships.
He said:
“I wasn’t happy with my performance. Because it was my first competition back, me and my coach decided to be a bit conservative with the totals we aimed for.”
Jack’s ambition is to represent his country internationally. He missed the chance to do so in Georgia in 2018 because of lack of funding. UK Sport does not currently fund weightlifting, which means Jack has to pay for his trips.
To make ends meet, he works as a coach at Black Wolf Fitness in Knaresborough and also works as a personal trainer, sports masseuse and as a staff member of the parks an environmental services department at Harrogate Borough Council. He says:
“It hasn’t been an easy road but you have to take it on the chin and drive on. I just love Olympic weightlifting.”
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Jack sometimes trains with fellow Starbuck man Luke Richardson, who has twice competed at the World’s Strongest Man.
Many people mistake weightlifting for strongman, powerlifting or bodybuilding.
Weightlifting consists of two lifts: snatch and clean and jerk, with the winner achieving the highest overall total. It’s an Olympic sport but only three British athletes — Zoe Smith, Emily Campbell and Sarah Davies — achieved the qualifying standard for this month’s Tokyo Olympics.
Jack invested in some weights at home a few years ago so when gyms closed during covid he was able to improvise at home by adapting some wooden planks into a lifting platform.
Now he hopes the years of hard work will pay off with a place among the sporting elite at Birmingham 2022.
Knaresborough and Starbeck pools to reopen this month
Harrogate Borough Council said today it will reopen Knaresborough Pool on Monday next week and Starbeck Baths on July 19.
However, Starbeck’s reopening depends on government social distancing measures being lifted that day as anticipated.
The council tweeted the news this afternoon to end months of uncertainty, questions and suspicion over the venues’ futures.
Lockdown restrictions eased on April 12 to permit swimming pools to re-open.
However, a problem with the pool filters at Knaresborough forced it to remain closed and the council blamed social distancing restrictions for the delay in reopening Starbeck.
Frustration has grown in recent weeks, particularly over the future of Starbeck Baths, with residents questioning whether it would ever re-open.
The news that Starbeck Baths would finally reopen was welcomed by local resident Chris Watt, who has been at the forefront of the campaign to reopen the pool.
He was due to ask a question about it at tonight’s full council meeting.
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- Residents wonder if Starbeck Baths will ever re-open
- Knaresborough and Starbeck pools: still no reopening dates
He told the Stray Ferret:
“It’s good to know my little campaign has had a result. It’s a bit of a shame it’s due to local residents putting pressure on the council.
“Let’s just hope they stick to it, they have promised to reopen it before so we will have to wait and see.
“My son will be so happy: he’s been asking constantly, ‘When can I swim again?’ so he’ll be delighted.”
‘It’s about time’
Philip Broadbank, the Liberal Democrat councillor for Starbeck, told the Stray Ferret “it’s about time” the pool reopened.
“I’ve been asking consistently since last summer when the baths will reopen so it’s good news that they are doing.
“It’s about time. I’ll be holding them to it. A lot of local residents have been campaigning with me for the baths to open so they’ll be very pleased too”.
Sessions at Knaresborough can only be booked through the council’s website from 10am on Friday. Details on how to book for Starbeck will be announced at a later date.
Trevor Watson, director for economy and culture at the council, said:
“It is fantastic news that the swimming pool in Knaresborough is set to open ahead of the school summer holidays, as I know local parents and children are keen to jump back in the pool.”
He added that being required to self isolate had presented staffing problems at the pools.
Police and council bid to close two Starbeck houses over crime“For many of us, this doesn’t present a problem as we can work at home. But for our leisure centre staff this isn’t possible and sadly has an unavoidable impact on the services we provide.
“We are doing what we can to recruit staff, fill these gaps and return to normal as soon as it is safe to do so. I’d like to thank residents for bearing with us.”
Police and council officers are attempting to close two more properties let by landlord John Willis.
North Yorkshire Police and Harrogate Borough Council have jointly applied to Leeds Magistrates Court for closure orders on 19 and 31 Avenue Grove, Starbeck.
The two organisations can apply to courts for closure orders if they have concerns about antisocial behaviour and criminal behaviour on premises.
The same authorities successfully applied for a three-month closure order on 38 Mayfield Grove, Harrogate, in March. This order expired last month.
All three properties are let by Mr Willis.
A joint statement today by the two authorities said:
“Following concerns about crime, drug use and anti-social behaviour at two multi-occupancy addresses – 19 and 31 Avenue Grove – Harrogate Borough Council and North Yorkshire Police have applied for closure orders.
“Under the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014, a closure order prohibits access to a property for a specified period. Breach of an order is a criminal offence punishable with imprisonment and/or a fine.”
The application was due to be heard on Wednesday but the hearing was adjourned until July 14.
Until this date the two properties have been served with closure notices, which prohibit visitors.
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- Mayfield Grove: house at centre of crime concerns allowed to re-open
- Calls for ‘dangerous’ Starbeck junction to be improved
Dean Richardson, head of safer communities at Harrogate Borough Council, said:
“It is imperative that residents across the Harrogate district feel safe in their homes and community.
“If landlords fail to manage their properties properly, and there is sufficient evidence to support any reports, we will work with the police and partner agencies to explore all legislative options available and act accordingly.”
Inspector Nicola Colbourne of North Yorkshire Police said:
“This action once again demonstrates our commitment to ensuring Harrogate remains one of the safest towns to live in.
“By listening to residents and working with partners like Harrogate Borough Council, we can address concerns head-on while offering the appropriate support to any vulnerable people we encounter.”
Last month Constable Kelvin Troughton, of North Yorkshire Police, told the Stray Ferret there had been a “reduction of incidents” at 38 Mayfield Grove since the closure order was served.
Calls for ‘dangerous’ Starbeck junction to be improved
A Starbeck councillor has called for a notorious junction to be made safer following a car crash on Wednesday.
The collision occurred when a car pulled out of The Avenue onto Starbeck High Street at around midday. Two men were taken to hospital but their injuries are not thought to be serious.
A police officer at the scene told the Stray Ferret collisions are common at the junction due to visibility issues. Cars often park in the lay-by next to the junction and a tree also obscures the view for motorists pulling out.
Liberal Democrat councillor Philip Broadbank, who has represented the area for over 40 years, called on North Yorkshire County Council‘s highways department to take a look at the junction to make it safer.
He said residents in more than 350 homes frequently used The Avenue to get onto the high street.
Cllr Broadbank told the Stray Ferret:
“It’s a problem for people trying to get out as it’s difficult to see. Vision is a problem and it’s dangerous.
“We need to look at the lay-by issue.”
He said there have previously been calls to add traffic lights “but there are enough traffic lights down there”.
He added:
“Its a problem as people get frustrated trying to inch out.”
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- Two men taken to hospital after Starbeck car crash
- Knaresborough and Starbeck pools: still no reopening dates
Several Stray Ferret readers responded to Wednesday’s story to say the junction was unsafe.
One said:
“Turning out of and into The Avenue is a nightmare. Visibility down toward the level crossing is terrible so you have to edge out.”
Another said:
“The trees need cutting on that junction, you can’t see to go there!”.
Don Mackenzie, executive member for access at North Yorkshire County Council, which is the highways authority, said:
Two men taken to hospital after Starbeck car crash“We take our road safety responsibilities seriously and will always act should there be a need to do so.
“In this instance, we await details of the incident from the police, but are unaware of particular safety issues with this junction.
“Care should always be taken when exiting from a side road on to a main road which is always very busy.”
Two men have been taken to hospital after a crash involving two cars in Starbeck.
It happened at about midday today at the junction of High Street and The Avenue.
A police officer at the scene told the Stray Ferret the crash occurred when a car on The Avenue pulled out onto High Street.
The officer added the male driver of one of the vehicles, and his male passenger, had been taken to hospital. Their injuries are not thought to be serious.
A female driver of the other car did not require hospital, the officer said.
Traffic was heavy shortly after the incident but by 1pm it had returned to normal, with the damaged cars moved to the side of the road.
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