A major consultation will ask people across North Yorkshire to give their views on public services this month.
North Yorkshire County Council is carrying out the project, titled Let’s Talk, to provide the foundations for decision-making and policy when the new unitary authority comes into effect in April next year.
It will see the existing NYCC and seven district councils, including Harrogate Borough Council, abolished in favour of the single authority for the whole of North Yorkshire, excluding York.
NYCC’s leader, Cllr Carl Les, said the results will deliver a vision for the new council, showing people’s priorities for spending on everything from social care and education to waste collection, recycling and highways maintenance.
He said:
“Having one new council will save millions of pounds by streamlining services and preventing duplication, creating the most efficient and cost-effective way of delivering them that we can.
“This money will help support services to ensure they are stronger and fit for the future and will fund decision-making on the most local level possible.
“It is vital we engage with the public to help shape exactly how the new council will operate, and this biggest ever conversation in North Yorkshire will be the way in which we can glean people’s views.
“I would urge everyone who lives and works in North Yorkshire to take time to put forward their opinions, and we will listen carefully to those views.”
The Let’s Talk campaign begins on Monday, September 19, running until Friday, December 23.
The first topic in the consultation will be on local communities, looking at education, job opportunities, parks and open spaces, and more.
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Future discussions will include public transport, roads and pavements, and access to libraries and museums. Housing provision, climate change and mobile phone and broadband coverage will also form part of the project.
The responses will help to shape policy for North Yorkshire Council over the first three years of its existence.
NYCC has pledged to ensure all communities have the opportunity to engage with the consultations through local events, which are yet to be announced, and online.
Cllr Les added:
“The new council will be the largest geographically in the country as it will cover England’s largest county, but it is being built with local at the heart of everything it will do.
“There will be local staff providing local services, based on local priorities and decision-making taking into account the views of the public.”
To take part in the consultation from September 19, click here. Details of events will also be posted on the same website.
Council explores move to protect Harrogate Convention Centre with limited company statusHarrogate Convention Centre could come under the control of a limited company as part of a potential bid by the borough council to protect its most prized asset.
With the abolition of Harrogate Borough Council fast approaching, the convention centre is set to be handed over to the new North Yorkshire Council next April as the venue also pushes ahead with plans for a £49 million redevelopment in the face of growing competition.
But borough council bosses have this week revealed they are working with consultants on new models for how the venue could be run.
This includes the possibility of creating a limited company which would be run by a board of directors, including senior staff and councillors, although it would still be owned and funded by the new North Yorkshire Council.
Paula Lorimer, director of Harrogate Convention Centre, told a meeting on Monday that events venues in Manchester, Liverpool and Glasgow operate in this way and that this “would be my recommendation”.
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Wallace Sampson, chief executive of the borough council, also said the convention centre could follow the “success” of the district’s leisure centres which were brought under the control of the council’s new leisure company Brimhams Active last year. He said:
“Clearly our view is that Brimhams has been a success in terms of creating a local authority controlled company – it has got a very clear focus and strategic vision.
“There is now a model in place which gives it a degree of freedom to operate, notwithstanding the fact that there is a board with representation from the borough council.”
Mr Sampson also stressed that the council was looking into a variety of different business models for the convention centre and that this work with consultants KPMG “hasn’t concluded yet”.
As well as Brimhams Active, the council’s tourism company Destination Harrogate is also set to be handed over to the new North Yorkshire Council.
But what will happen to the companies after this major change for local government in seven months’ time remains unclear as council staff continue to plan how all services across North Yorkshire should be run in the future.
Councillor Pat Marsh, leader of the opposition Liberal Democrat group, said she was worried that decisions about the convention centre “won’t be in our hands” without a limited company and that she had seen the benefits that such a move could bring as a board member on Brimhams Active. She said:
“We need to have that business as most councillors think the convention centre underpins the economy of this town.
“Without it, I wouldn’t like to think how Harrogate would be.”
The proposed £49 million redevelopment of the convention centre recently moved to the next design stage – although a final decision on the major plans is still just under a year away.
It will be in July or August next year when that decision is made and because of local government reorganisation, it will be taken by the new North Yorkshire Council.
The proposals come after warnings that the venue “may fail to survive” and suffer losses of up to £250 million over the next 40 years unless the redevelopment is carried out.
MPs watch: energy costs and sewage controversyEvery month the Stray Ferret tries to find out what our local MPs have been up to in their constituencies and in the House of Commons.
In August, Parliament was not sitting as it was in recess over the summer. Nonetheless, Conservative MPs faced questions over what the government was doing to tackle the cost of living crisis and allegations that they voted voted in favour of pumping raw sewage into rivers and the sea.
We asked our three Conservative MPs, Harrogate & Knaresborough’s Andrew Jones, Skipton and Ripon’s Julian Smith, and Selby and Ainsty’s Nigel Adams if they would like to highlight anything in particular that they have been doing this month, but, as usual, we did not receive a response from any of them.
Here is what we know after analysing their online presence.

Andrew Jones, MP for Harrogate and Knaresborough.
Andrew Jones
In Harrogate and Knaresborough, here is what we found out on Mr Jones:
- On August 3, Andrew Jones welcomed the Treasury’s response to his letter which ensured people connected to LPG gas bottles would get government support with their energy bills.
- Mr Jones strongly criticised claims that he voted to allow the pumping of sewage into rivers and the sea. He said the claims were “simply a lie”.
- Mr Jones called on people to get involved with the “national mission” to beat dementia by signing up to Join Dementia Research.
- The former Rail Minister told Transport for the North that investing in public transport was “going to be a main part of how we recover from the economic problems caused by the pandemic and inflation,” as well as reducing carbon emissions.
- Mr Jones also backed York to be the headquarters of the new government rail body Great British Railways.
- On August 31, he held an advice surgery in Knaresborough market.
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Julian Smith, MP for Ripon and Skipton.
Julian Smith
In Skipton and Ripon, here is what we found on Mr Smith:
- On August 5, Mr Smith welcomed the £11,000 awarded by Historic England to the Ripon Museums Trust to investigate the lives of disabled people in the city’s workhouse.
- Mr Smith regularly tweeted his support for Rishi Sunak in the Conservatives’ leadership election, which ends on September 5.
- Mr Smith held meetings with small business owners in his constituency. He tweeted that it was “clear urgent intervention is also required” for small businesses as well as households.
- On August 1, Mr Smith welcomed the devolution deal signed by North Yorkshire County Council, the City of York Council and the government, as well as Richard Flinton’s appointment as the chief executive of the new North Yorkshire Council.
- Mr Smith tweeted that “the new UK PM & the EU need to listen and step up” over work to secure a deal on Brexit-related issues in Northern Ireland.

Nigel Adams, MP for Selby and Ainsty which includes rural Harrogate.
Nigel Adams
In rural south Harrogate, here is what we found on Mr Adams:
- On August 1, Mr Adams said he was “delighted” by the new devolution deal.
- Mr Adams posted on his website about the consultation to upgrade the A64 near York, on the main route between Harrogate and the North Yorkshire coast.
- Mr Adams also hit back at claims that he had allowed the pumping of sewage into waterways. He tweeted that the “fake news brigade and their gullible followers aren’t interested in facts” relating to the UK’s sewage system.
- It was reported that Mr Adams could be in line for a peerage in Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s list of resignation honours. Such a move would trigger a by-election in his constituency. Mr Adams previously confirmed that he would stand down at the next election.
Richard Flinton was this morning appointed as the first chief executive of the new North Yorkshire Council.
Mr Flinton will take up the £180,000 to £197,000 a year role when the new authority comes into existence in April 2023.
An extraordinary meeting this morning ratified his appointment. Sixteen applications for the role were received.
Mr Flinton is the current chief executive of North Yorkshire County Council. Carl Les, the current leader of the county council, will be the new leader of North Yorkshire County Council.
Cllr John McCartney, an Independent councillor for Osgoldcross, told the meeting people had been assured North Yorkshire devolution would not amount to a “power grab” by the county council but that appeared to be the case now that it had been named the continuing authority and there was a continuing chief executive.
He added:
“The perception of this is absolutely appalling out there. It’s just a disgraceful perception.
“People do not understand why they did not get a vote on the governance of their local councils and their local services and they do not get a vote on how their council tax will be used.”
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Cllr McCartney went onto add that there was a “disconnect” between the council and the county, which would be “as big as the Humber estuary” when the unitary council comes into force.
He said:
“Residents who vote Conservative in the main at General Elections are irked and discombobulated and feel like they have been treated with contempt.
“I don’t take much from the USA, but government of the people, for the people and by the people is a pretty good recipe for democracy. But that is not what North Yorkshire County Council is going to be.”
In response, Cllr Carl Les, leader of the council, said the process for choosing Mr Flinton was “well done” and attended by all political groups within the council.
He said:
“I don’t know what to say to John McCartney. I don’t think much of what you have said has anything to do with what we are discussing today which is the appointment of a chief executive.”
Cllr Les added Mr Flinton had “grown through the ranks of this organisation and grown into every role we have given him. I am sure he will continue to do so.”
Following the meeting, Mr Flinton said:
“I am honoured to have been chosen to become the chief executive of the new council at a time of huge change and opportunity in North Yorkshire.
“We are faced with some unprecedented challenges that have arisen from rising inflation as well as pressures on social care and also the issues which all local authorities are facing in recruiting and retaining staff to their workforces.
“But with those challenges come immense opportunities, while working with colleagues in North Yorkshire’s district and borough councils to introduce the new unitary authority.”
The new top local politician in the Harrogate district
The local political landscape is being utterly transformed.
A new unitary authority is coming; eight existing councils, including Harrogate Borough Council and North Yorkshire County Council, are going.
A devolution deal this week paved the way for a countywide mayor and the creation of a combined authority overseeing £540 million.
It’s not just the institutions changing. So too are the politicians.
Richard Cooper and Graham Swift, the long-serving Conservative leader and deputy leader of Harrogate Borough Council, will step down when it is abolished next year.
Don Mackenzie, the Conservative councillor previously in charge of transport at North Yorkshire County Council, did not seek re-election in the local elections on May 5.
Since then a new man has emerged as the most senior local politician and although he too is a Conservative he is a somewhat different beast.
As executive member for health and adult services at North Yorkshire County Council, Michael Harrison is the only person from the Harrogate district sitting on what is effectively the 10-person cabinet making key decisions on spending in the county.
Cllr Harrison (far right), sitting on the county council’s cabinet.
Cllr Harrison’s portfolio is responsible for more than half of the county council’s £380 million annual budget. But most people aren’t interested in social care until they need it, so his role attracts far less attention than the transport brief Keane Duncan inherited from Don Mackenzie, even though the sums are higher.
Cllr Harrison, who lives at Killinghall Moor, is far from unhappy about his low profile. He says:
“I enjoy contributing in an executive capacity. Adult social care is a complex area — you are dealing with some of the most vulnerable people in society.
“I feel I have a lot to offer there. It’s completely different to being the local face of the council.”
From Killinghall to Northallerton
Born in Sunderland, and with the accent to prove it, Cllr Harrison, 52, moved to the Harrogate district in the mid-1990s with his job at Lloyds Banking Group. He still works for the bank in risk management.
He joined Killinghall Parish Council in 2002, was elected to Harrogate Borough Council in 2004 and nine years later was also voted on to North Yorkshire County Council.
While some of his Conservative colleagues fell by the wayside at May’s local election, he received a commanding 54% share of the vote to ensure he will represent Killinghall, Hampsthwaite and Saltergate on the county council and its successor, the new North Yorkshire Council, until at least 2027.
Many people think councillors are full time professionals, but most combine politics with full-time jobs. Each county councillor receives a basic allowance of £10,316. Executive members, like Cllr Harrison, also receive special responsibility allowances of £15,939.

County Hall in Northallerton, home of North Yorkshire County Council.
Cllr Harrison often takes his laptop to County Hall in Northallerton to work on his day job between meetings. Juggling the two isn’t easy, but he says:
“I think it’s important that councillors are drawn from society itself. It wouldn’t be healthy if only retired people could do it. But it is difficult to do it alongside a full-time job. You need the support of your family and employer.”
Pragmatism over politics
Although he’s a lifelong Conservative, Cllr Harrison does not come across as overtly political. He doesn’t name any political heroes and claims not to be ambitious.
“I’ve never had any particular political ambitions. I get a lot out of delivering quietly behind the scenes. I adopt a pragmatic approach to problems.”
He is backing Rishi Sunak in the leadership contest, saying he wants someone who can “reintroduce honesty and integrity into central government”.
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County Hall in Northallerton operates like Whitehall in London. The politically elected executive members set the direction of travel and professional civil servants carry out the day-to-day work.
Cllr Harrison seems more comfortable talking about the nuts and bolts of North Yorkshire politics rather than banging the drum for the Tories.
He says the new unitary authority will deliver services more efficiently than the current two-tier system by removing bureaucracy and will also end confusion over which council does what. But he admits there are challenges:
“Can the new council demonstrate it understands local needs? Tensions will be there within the district. The key is to understand priorities in each area.”
He says some services, such as gritting and waste disposal, are best handled centrally in Northallerton, but other services, such as leisure and tourism, require a more local focus.
Unusually for a leading Conservative, he’s a member of the banking union Accord and talks warmly about it. He says:
“Unions have a key role to play in representing employees.”
He also has rheumatoid arthritis, which he says is under control. Typically, he doesn’t make a fuss about it and is soon talking about social care again. He seems happy with it this way:
County council boss set to be appointed chief executive of new North Yorkshire Council“Prior to getting into local government I said to people ‘I’m not into politics’. I’m more interested in delivering services for residents and hopefully being a common sense voice around the table.”
The chief executive of North Yorkshire County Council is set to be appointed as the head of the new unitary authority next month.
Richard Flinton, who has held his current role since 2010, was today named as the preferred candidate to take the helm at North Yorkshire Council.
Mr Flinton, who lives in Ryedale, will be paid up to £197,000 for the role,
The recommendation comes from NYCC’s cross-party chief officer appointments committee, which conducted the selection process.
The final decision will be made by councillors at a full meeting of NYCC on Wednesday, August 17.
The committee chairman, Cllr Carl Les – who is also leader of NYCC and will become leader of the new authority next year – said:
“Our new council will be one of the largest authorities in the country but we are building it around the needs of people, communities and businesses; so it will also be one of the most local.
“The successful candidate for the role of chief executive will be in charge of ensuring that the county’s 600,000 residents, and tens of thousands of businesses, get the best possible service and value for money.
“The person will also manage a revenue budget of around £1.4 billion and an ongoing capital programme of around £350 million while driving the transformation programme to bring public services together in a way that is effective and practical. This programme is estimated to make significant financial savings, which will then be used to help finance frontline services.
“As you would expect for a job this important, the process to select a preferred candidate has been competitive and robust and involved all political parties. It is now for wider councillors to make the final decision when they meet in a few weeks’ time.”
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Mr Flinton, who was born in Scarborough, has worked for NYCC since 1987, initially in trading standards. He rose through the ranks to become corporate director of business and environmental services in 2008, before becoming chief executive two years later.
The county council said the recruitment process for his new role was open and promoted nationally.
He said:
“I am humbled to have been chosen as the preferred candidate for the role of chief executive officer of the new North Yorkshire Council. The move to the new authority represents huge challenges and opportunities, and to be able to play a part in that would be a huge honour.
“There are so many hugely talented people across all of the eight councils which will become one next year, and it would be a real privilege to work with them.”
He will take up the post on April 1, when the new North Yorkshire Council comes into effect.
At that point, the 90 councillors elected in May to NYCC will transfer to the new authority where they will serve the first four-year term before another election is held.
At the same time, North Yorkshire’s seven district councils – including Harrogate Borough Council – will be abolished.
County Council’s ambition for devolution deal on Yorkshire DayThe leader of North Yorkshire County Council has spoken of his hope that the government will agree a devolution deal this Monday on Yorkshire Day.
Councillor Carl Les said while it had been hoped devolution for the county and York would be agreed before the parliamentary summer recess started last week, work was continuing to finalise a deal after almost 20 months of negotiations.
He told a meeting of the authority that the Department for Communities and Local Government had launched a process known as a “write-round”, to get the consent from other ministries, such as the Treasury, and Department of Transport, without having to hold a cabinet meeting.
It is understood if all the government departments are happy, a devolution deal could be announced within days.
Cllr Les said he was hopeful a deal could be reached by August 1.
Cllr Les has repeatedly emphasised the county has no right to devolution and that North Yorkshire and York have had to develop a case for the government giving up some of its powers.
If there is an objection from any ministry it could delay the deal until September.
A meeting of the authority heard concerns over the potential consequences of the government missing the target date.
The concerns follow Michael Gove’s departure as communities secretary prompting fears within local government that devolution might be postponed.
However, local government analysts have reported Mr Gove’s replacement, Greg Clark, is determined to keep to his predecessor’s target of getting nine devolution deals signed before the autumn.
There have also been concerns the deal could be delayed by an unwillingness to ratify major decisions during uncertainty over who will become the next prime minister.
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It is believed the deal for York and North Yorkshire could potentially unlock around £2.4bn of investment over 30 years, with a focus on improving economic prosperity, creating more affordable housing and lead to the area becoming England’s first carbon negative economy.
Key to the asks which were put forward in December 2020 are wishes to take charge of delivering improved digital connectivity and the amount of “gain share” or extra funding from government.Gain share is being viewed as a key part of the devolution deal as it will remain the same flat rate for the next 30 years, whereas the devolvement of powers could continue to be negotiated at a later date.
Call for roundabout to replace lights at key Ripon junctionA ‘jumble of traffic lights’ at the four-way junction linking the Morrisons Supermarket site with the Ripon to Harrogate Road, Moorside and Quarry Moor Lane, is causing confusion for motorists that may lead to accidents.
That’s the conclusion of Ripon City Council, which is calling for the numerous sets of lights to be replaced by a single roundabout.
Speaking at the July full meeting of the council, leader Andrew Williams, said:
“We have recently had two serious accidents at this junction and it’s just fortunate that neither of them involved fatalities.
“We have a jumble of traffic lights and lanes at this junction – some for vehicles turning in to Morrisons, some for them turning out and, adding to the confusion, there are also turns for Moorside and Quarry Moor Lane.
“The junction would be a lot safer if it were served by a roundabout.”
Fellow councillors were in agreement and the call to North Yorkshire for the roundabout will go alongside a request for further road re-surfacing in and around Ripon city centre.
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The potholes have gone from Princess Road
North Yorkshire highways bosses have often had a rough ride when it comes to concerns raised by city councillors about potholed roads, but there was praise for them at the council meeting, as members said they were happy with the resurfacing work carried out on St Mary’s Gate, Minster Road and Princess Road.
Councillor Pauline McHardy said:
“A good job was done by the contractor employed by Harrogate Borough Council to resurface Cathedral Car Park and make the spaces wider and North Yorkshire has done a similarly good job with its recent resurfacing work.”
It was, however, agreed that there is still a long way to go before Ripon is rid of its pothole problems.
Cllr Williams, who was elected onto the North Yorkshire authority in May has taken senior officers and Cllr Keane Duncan, the newly appointed executive member for highways and transportation, on guided tours of the city’s uneven streets.
It is hoped that money can be allocated in forward budgets for repair and renewal works to be carried out.
Cllr Williams, pointed out:
“We visited a number of problem areas, including the four roads around Market Square, Dallamires Lane and Blossomgate and I explained that the people of Ripon would like to have all of them brought up to the standard of the newly-resurfaced roads that we now have in the city”
Map reveals areas which could be served by a Harrogate Town Council
The areas which could pay an extra tax to fund a Harrogate Town Council have been revealed for the first time in a new map.
A consultation on whether to create the new council will be held this summer after the proposal gathered the support of politicians in Harrogate .
Harrogate and Scarborough are the only two areas in North Yorkshire not to be parished.
And although the move has been well supported by councillors, it will be residents who have the final say on whether it should go ahead.
A new map (pictured above) from North Yorkshire County Council has revealed which areas could vote in this poll and ultimately be served by the town council.
These include:
High Harrogate and Kingsley
Valley Gardens and Central Harrogate
Fairfax and Starbeck
Stray, Woodlands and Hookstone
Harlow and St Georges
Bilton Grange and New Park
Bilton and Nidd Gorge
Most of Coppice Valley and Duchy
Parts of Oatlands and Pannal
Parts of Killinghall, Hampsthwaite and Saltergate
It has been argued that creating a town council will help Harrogate keep control of its prized public buildings and some services such as parks and tourism when the existing county and borough councils are abolished next April.
The existing councils will be replaced by a new North Yorkshire Council which could filter down some powers to all town and parish councils in what has been hailed as a “double devolution”.
Those were the words of councillor Carl Les, leader of North Yorkshire County Council, who also previously said more than one town or parish council could be created in Harrogate – if that’s what voters wanted.
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A decision to hold the upcoming consultation was agreed at a meeting of the county council’s executive today when the next steps of the legal process known as a community governance review were set out.
Councillor David Chance, executive member for corporate services, said:
“In the first set of consultations we will consult with the relevant people in the affected areas to gain their views.
“We will then take those views and make recommendations for approval.
“If it was considered appropriate to create town councils, we would then be looking to make such recommendations within a 12-month period.
“And then new town councils could potentially be created in 2024.”
Other services which could come under the control of a Harrogate Town Council include events, markets, play areas, community centres and allotments.
These arrangements are already in place at the likes of Knaresborough Town Council and Ripon City Council which charge £25.27 and £70.77 respectively for their annual parish precepts.
The idea of a Harrogate Town Council has already won the support of members of the outgoing Harrogate Borough Council who made calls for the process to be sped up.
County council leader Carl Les also said he believed Harrogate and Scarborough would both be “well served” by a lower tier of local government.
He previously said:
North Yorkshire Council faces £50m black hole, says finance boss“I’m a great advocate of parish and town councils.
“That said, it is for the people to decide whether they want them or not.
“I’m very keen that we start the process as soon as possible and we will go to the public in Harrogate and Scarborough at the earliest opportunity.”
North Yorkshire County Council’s finance boss has said the new unitary local authority is facing a possible black hole of close to £50 million a year.
Cllr Gareth Dadd, executive member for finance at the county council, said the situation was largely due to deficits it will inherit from district councils and high inflation.
Cllr Dadd said it was far too early for the authority, which will come into existence on April 1 next year, to be considering service cutbacks.
Due to the range of uncertainties facing the authority including the ongoing impact of covid, he likened setting the council’s budgets to “trying to juggle two bowls of jelly”.
He was speaking at a meeting of the Conservative-led authority’s executive where a move to top up a fund to cover the costs of local government reorganisation to £38 million was approved.
Although he did not estimate the total structural deficits that the seven second tier authorities, including Harrogate Borough Council, would have accumulated by the time the new council is launched in April, he said it was believed it would be “substantial”.
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However, it has been estimated the combined ongoing deficits of the district and borough councils could be in the region of £10 million.
In addition, ahead of the recent increasing inflation rate the county authority had been prepared to cover a deficit of up to £20 million.
With inflationary pressures, which include the council’s gas and electricity bill rising by some £3m, it is believed the total deficit could nearly reach £50 million.
Cllr Dadd told today’s meeting:
“That is a frightening figure, but nonetheless, I think we are right to raise that at this stage.”
‘Higher uncertainty and risk’
An officer’s report to the meeting said:
“As further savings are required the schemes to achieve these will become more challenging and inevitably contain a higher level of uncertainty and risk. Therefore, it is imperative that delivery of each saving is closely monitored.
“As well as direct costs, higher inflation will feed into increased charges from suppliers and put pressure on wage levels for our own workforce and the wider supply chain.
“Effective budgetary control will remain critically important in the coming year but this alone is unlikely to be able to stave off unanticipated price increases in delivering the range of council services.
“This is, of course, at the same time as undertaking key work in transitioning to the new unitary council.”
Cllr Dadd said while the authority had been successful in cutting costs during austerity, it would never be complacent about sound financial management.
The meeting heard the county council’s business case for local government reorganisation had provided for a £252 million saving over a five-year period after £38 million in costs were taken off.
Cllr Dadd said he would be astounded if all of the £38 million was needed for the reorganisation.