Stray Views: Let’s not alienate young people using cycle paths in Harrogate woods

Stray Views is a weekly column giving you the chance to have your say on issues affecting the Harrogate district. It is an opinion column and does not reflect the views of the Stray Ferret. Send your views to letters@thestrayferret.co.uk.

This is an email in full support of the creative youths that have developed their own entertainment in the woods. (Extensive action’ pledged to tackle teen bike track in Harrogate woods). 

We cannot speak for other users as the ‘anonymous local resident’ has so thoughtfully done, however, the track is not spoiling the space for my husband and I and we do not see this as ‘wanton vandalism’. The ramps and holes have been made from fallen trees, existing rocks and dirt tracks so we do not see where damage to flora and fauna has been made.

With regards to littering this is in fact a group of adults who utilise the woods for drinking at night so perhaps policing during the night would be better. Whomever has decided in their wisdom to remove all bins from the woodland and immediate area in favour of the tardis style bin some distance away, you can expect littering to increase not decrease because of this crazy decision.

In addition, the youths have every right to enjoy the green space along with the rest of us and have been nothing but polite to me and my husband when we walk our dog, waiting for us to pass and warning their friends to wait until the dog has walked by before they cycle, which we have thanked them for.

Let’s not ostracise the next generation, after all it is them we are relying on to save the planet, so perhaps some relationship building between the ‘anonymous’ local resident and the youths would be useful and please, we ask that the rest of us ‘local residents’ are not tarred with the same bitter brush.

Denise Webber, Harrogate

Nightmare train journey

Diabolical journey on the hottest day of the year in a non air conditioned carriage! No electricity for phones/laptops etc! If it had been at night presumably we would have been in the dark!

Everyone had to squash in the next carriage to get cool.

This is not the first time this has happened either.

Ann FitzGerald, Starbeck

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Praise for police memorial

May I add my voice to the commendations re the police memorial recently installed (Memorial stone unveiled in honour of murdered Harrogate police officer). The men and women who are prepared to stand up in situations where others run away should be remembered and honoured.

Can I also commend the National Memorial Arboretum at Alrewas in Derbyshire. It is a huge piece of land lovingly cared for and contains not only memorials to military losses, but Lifeboat crews, Ambulance service men and women, and yes a whole avenue of memorials to the police officers who have given their lives for us.

Their area of the arboretum is known as “The Beat.” Well worth a visit.

William Thompson, Park House Green, Harrogate

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Teens left in tears by Northern train guard’s ‘heavy-handed’ fine

The parents of three teenagers left “in tears” after being issued with a fine on a train journey have criticised the guard’s “heavy-handed” approach.

Freddie Fulford, 15, and his friends Evie and Oscar Bartle were travelling from Cattal to York on Saturday, June 3.

It was the first time the three had gone into York together and Freddie’s dad, Tony, said they were looking forward to a day out on their own.

“They jumped on the train with no tickets because it was in the station when they arrived.

“There is a ticket machine at the station, but they didn’t know you couldn’t pay on the train.”

Cattal Station

Once the guard realised the teens didn’t have tickets, he issued them with fines of £20 each. The teenagers said they were told in an “intimidating and frightening” way that the maximum penalty was three months in prison.

Upset by the fine and the threat of a criminal record, the teens called their parents from York station in tears.

Mr Fulford, who lives in Harrogate, said:

“They could have paid there and then or the guards could have said ‘buy at ticket on the app and we’ll come back in a minute’. It was just so heavy-handed.

“The obvious answer would have been to let them buy the tickets on the train and explain what they should do for next time.”

He said both families have submitted complaints and appealed against the fines. They had heard from other parents whose children had been fined for similar situations and had successfully appealed.

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Both sets of parents are in a position to pay the fines, he said, but he was concerned about other families who were not. He added:

“The main point is to stop it happening again.”

The Stray Ferret contacted Northern for a response to Mr Fulford’s concerns about their handling of the situation.

In response, Tony Baxter, regional director for Northern, said:

“Customers have a duty to buy a ticket for travel before they board a train.

“They can do so in advance via our app and website or, if they wish to purchase at an un-staffed station, they can do so from one of the more than 600 ticket machines we have installed across the network – one of which is at Cattal station.

“Customers should arrive at the station in time to purchase their ticket before they travel. Anyone issued with a penalty fare has the right to appeal the decision to an independent appeal service.”