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Oct 2023

Last Updated: 29/09/2023
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Stray Views: New larger waste bins are a 'wasteful debacle'

by Stray Ferret Readers

| 01 Oct, 2023
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Stray Views is a weekly column giving you the chance to have your say on issues affecting the Harrogate district. It is an opinion column and does not reflect the views of the Stray Ferret. Send your views to letters@thestrayferret.co.uk.




Your recent article [Council spends £478,000 on halving number of litter bins] highlights the scandalous and wasteful irresponsibility of the new council. Blaming the defunct Harrogate Borough Council for making the decision is lazy - North Yorkshire Council didn't have to action it.

Key points/questions that need exploring/asking:

1. How many of the 'old' bins actually needed replacing?

2. £478,000 will take 14 years to recover from the alleged savings. Will the new bins even last that long?

3. What are the respective capacities of the bins? The new ones would have to be significantly bigger (at least double) to make meaningful travel savings. In any event, there will be more travel required to clear up fly tipping which itself is an environmental hazard! - which will also reduce the actual savings achieved by the council.

4. The previous bins were presumably sited with the experience of public activities. Re-siting them merely for the convenience of the council was asking for trouble.

5. If the council had consulted the public beforehand they might have learnt valuable information from everyday users of the bins, to inform eventual decisions and facilitate community ownership of the final decisions who'd have a vested interest in the practical outcomes. It would also have been a valuable opportunity to explore the idea of dog walkers taking their dogs' waste home to save money. And show how those savings could be invested in the local community.

6. What does Ms Wallis mean by saying “The main aim of the project was to reduce the number of duplicate journeys between different services." ? What services were making the same journey to the same bins and why were they doing that?? If this was the main aim, what are the expected savings? If this statement is true, it's everything to do with management of staff and nothing to do with numbers and sizes of bins.

7. Ms Wallis also refers to improving the street scene with this initiative. How is this improved with less bins or no bins at all? - leading to more overflowing waste in high footfall areas that previous bins couldn't cope with and fly-tipped waste where bins have been removed altogether?

Alice Woolley




Let's have empathy for the homeless


I have been reading with some sadness the conversations on here about homelessness in Harrogate, especially the rough sleepers around the Crescent Gardens, and how people find this disturbing.

What I find more disturbing is how nobody has mentioned the plight of those homeless people and why they are rough sleeping in the first place. It’s not like it’s a life choice. These conversations remind me of “tidying up“ the streets of Windsor before the last royal wedding.

How awful that poor people with drug, alcohol and mental health problems make the place untidy and have nowhere to live. The wealth of Harrogate sits amidst absurd house prices, unaffordable rent, and the gig economy. But the visible consequences make us uncomfortable.

Life for the poor is getting worse, we need to help them, not demonise them.

Penny Robinson, Harrogate




20mph is correct 


I can't support Mark Fuller's view [Stray Views: Why no 20mph limit outside my children’s primary school?] that we need the the evidence of a child death before a 20mph speed limit is applied outside Willow Tree School on Wetherby Road.

The sheer weight of traffic should be reason enough.
John Hibbitt, Boston Spa 






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