Stray Views is a weekly column giving you the chance to have your say on issues affecting the Harrogate district. It is an opinion column and does not reflect the views of the Stray Ferret. Send your views to letters@thestrayferret.co.uk.
Selling of council land at Oak Beck
The council have now decided to flog off this last piece of green space in New Park. Apparently to provide a bit of dosh to prop up the
conference centre business in fear of Leeds grabbing OUR visitors.
Piece by piece this lacklustre council having spent lots of dosh on pointless and ineffective plans and schemes, now are evicting wildlife from the final vestiges of natural environment.
This is a lovely area of peace, where we can hear the birds, and listen to the beck gurgling it’s way (sometimes sewage as well).
Where are all these creatures to go? Where can we go to escape the stresses of life in Harrogate? Another rotten plan from a soon to be defunct council.
William B Thompson, New Park, Harrogate
Reduction in the Fire Service in Harrogate.I have not seen the details of this proposal to fully comment. However, since the Harrogate fire station was built some years ago and staffed with the suitable staff levels and appliances, Harrogate has expanded massively with additional housing and industrial units. Just looking from my car driving into Harrogate by the A59 or by Penny Pot. Huge housing developments. Industrial units near the Army College. Even Killinghall has probably doubled in size with additional housing. This is happening throughout the area. Then there’s the condition of the older existing properties both housing , retail and business premises. These older properties will have timber roofing members, floor joists which will be now tinder dry and with the change in climate, plus heating and other equipment not being updated, the fire risk will have increased quite a lot. Remember the huge fire next to what was the North Eastern pub some years ago? Any reduction will impact public safety. So any reductions seem unwise!! Allan Campbell, Harrogate |
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- Starbeck KFC withdraws expansion plan
- Harrogate fire station changes won’t increase risk to life, says commissioner
Starbeck should support KFC expansion – a response
William Powell makes some good points in his call for Starbeck’s KFC to be expanded, but he is wrong to dismiss the views of local people.
He is right that Starbeck is in a wonderful strategic position between Harrogate and Knaresborough, with excellent transport links. He is right that empty premises on our High Street are a bad thing.
He is right that Starbeck has a vibrant economy, but this is driven by the local residents of our diverse area who use these shops and facilities. But they are also impacted by those businesses, whether its litter, noise, traffic or a range of other issues that local people regularly raise with the Residents’ Association.
So the Starbeck Residents’ Association (SRA) asked people who live locally what they thought about KFC’s plans and others. And views were split. Some thought it was most important to fill empty premises. Others wanted a wider diversity of businesses on a High Street that already has plenty of takeaways. Both are right and not contradictory.
The SRA recognises that we cannot force particular enterprises into a particular area. That’s why we are in touch with the local Chamber of Commerce and others about what more we can do to promote Starbeck. It has a well used library, swimming pool, successful sports clubs and facilities like Belmont Park and a real sense of community, with numerous local voluntary groups attached to our vibrant church communities and many others.
So let’s be ambitious for our area. I know I’m not alone in being proud to live in Starbeck and together we can make it better.
Chris Watt, Chair Starbeck Residents’ Association
‘Green gap’ will protect villages from 3,000-home Maltkiln scheme, says councilA “green gap” proposed for a 3,000-home scheme in the Harrogate district will protect surrounding villages from the huge housing plans, council officials have claimed.
Ever since being revealed five years ago, a key concern of the proposed site in the Green Hammerton area has been the impact on existing residents who fear the new homes will put pressure on local services with a “devastating effect on the community”.
Harrogate Borough Council is behind the development and said it recognised that separating the site from existing communities was “very important”.
It has proposed a “green gap” to the north east of the site which will act as an area of safeguarded land and aims to “protect the distinctive rural character of existing villages”.
Residents have argued this area of land should be expanded further north and south to also protect the nearby villages of Whixley and Cattal.
However, the council has rejected these calls, saying it does not believe there is “sufficient justification” to do so and that it did not want to restrict a potential expansion of the 3,000-home site to be named Maltkiln.
The council said in a report:
“Development of Maltkiln is a long term project, with delivery over a period of some 30 years.
“Whilst there is no expansion planned for the current Local Plan period, the council does not wish to prejudice potential for future expansion in the longer term by creating a buffer around the proposed settlement boundary.”
The council also argued that safeguarding more land to the north and south would result in a “green belt by the back door” and not accord with national planning policy. Green belt land is protected areas where developments are only allowed in special circumstances.
The council added:
“A strategic green gap on the eastern edge of Maltkiln is proposed in order to prevent coalescence and protect the distinctive rural character of existing villages.
“It is also a key part of achieving Maltkiln’s vision to be a vibrant new community in its own right, which provides new services and complements existing villages.”
The proposals for Maltkiln include two primary schools and land for a secondary school, as well as shops, employment space and a GP surgery which will be centred around Cattal train station.
Read more:
- Green Hammerton gets final approval for 3,000-home settlement
- ‘Let’s make the best of it’: Hopes and fears for 3000-home Maltkiln settlement
- Harrogate council to commission climate change study for new 3,000-home settlement
The council said it chose this location due to its transport links with the York-Harrogate-Leeds railway line and the A59.
A six-week consultation on the development plan document is planned for October when residents will be asked to share their views on areas including roads and public transport.
After this, the document will then be submitted to the government for public examination.
‘Deeply alarming’: Harrogate council uses CCTV from Chinese Communist Party controlled firmA leading civil liberties group has said it is ‘deeply alarming’ that Harrogate Borough Council uses CCTV cameras supplied by a company controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, and with links to the Uyghur ‘genocide’ in Xinjiang.
HIKVision CCTV cameras have already been banned in the United States over security concerns.
But a report from Big Brother Watch this year revealed almost three-quarters of local authorities use CCTV manufactured by the company, as do many NHS trusts, police forces and schools.
The council has 212 CCTV cameras in total across the district. They are in Harrogate, Knaresborough and Ripon town centres as well as at leisure centres such as the Hydro and Ripon’s new Jack Laugher Leisure and Wellness Centre.
The Stray Ferret sent a freedom of information request to the council asking how many of these cameras were made by HIKVision and was told the number is 86.
HIKVision cameras come at the cheaper end of the market, making them a popular choice for cash-strapped local authorities but critics say they come with other, more sinister, costs.
As well as being used in Uyghur detention camps, software flaws have connected the CCTV cameras back to servers in China leading to fears about spying by the repressive state.

A CCTV camera — one of 212 in the district — overlooking the Royal Hall.
Detention camps
The Uyghurs are a predominantly Muslim ethnic group in north west China who face persecution and oppression by the ruling Chinese Communist Party.
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have published reports that accused China of crimes against humanity. A UK-based independent tribunal last year ruled Beijing was guilty of genocide.
The BBC has captured evidence of HIKVision CCTV cameras being used to monitor the Uyghur population in the Xinjiang region, as well as in so-called ‘detention camps’ where it’s estimated over a million Uyghurs have been locked up.
Last year, MPs on the foreign affairs committee published a report that said cameras made by Hikvision “have been deployed throughout Xinjiang, and provide the primary camera technology used in the internment camps”.
Madeleine Stone, legal and policy officer at civil liberties group Big Brother Watch said:
“It is deeply alarming that Harrogate Borough Council is purchasing and using Hikvision cameras to monitor members of the public.
“Taxpayers’ money should not be funding a company so closely linked to the Uyghur genocide in Xinjiang. Chinese state-owned CCTV companies have no place in the UK and the government should act now to ban them.”
China has denied all allegations of human rights abuses in Xinjiang.
Read more:
- Rise in empty homes adds pressure on Harrogate district housing market
- Council warns of ‘high risks’ as Kex Gill cost soars to £69m
Security concerns
As well as the ethical question marks around HIKVision cameras, there are also fears that the cameras could compromise security and be used for spying.
Whilst there is no direct evidence of HIKVision providing data gathered from CCTV cameras to the Chinese state, there was an instance in Italy last year where hundreds of HIKVision cameras suddenly started connecting to a server in China.
The incident in Italy was rare but Big Brother Watch has also reported other “security holes” in one of the company’s main remote viewing software tools that could connect directly to servers in the country.

A CCTV camera on Cambridge Street – one of 212 in the district.
Chris Aldred, Liberal Democrat councillor for Fairfax and chair of the council’s overview and scrutiny commission, said the security implications were potentially “very worrying” for the district. He said:
“It would be very worrying if our cameras in Harrogate district suddenly started transmitting their images anywhere else, not just China.
“I know from my own personal CCTV training within the security Industry that there are, quite rightly, very strict regulations as to who can view CCTV images and for what purpose, even the police have to apply for permission and follow strict guidelines.”
The council publishes an annual report about its use of CCTV but it does not mention who manufactures the cameras.
Cllr Aldred added:
“What is happening in the Uyghur detention camps is truly appalling and it is disappointing that Harrogate Borough Council has ultimately bought our cameras from the same company whose technology is undoubtedly aiding what is happening there”.
Cllr Aldred said he will ask the council if it has concerns about HIKVision, and if it has plans to remove the cameras.
A Harrogate Borough Council spokesperson said:
“HIKVision CCTV cameras are used extensively by local authorities across the UK, as they are known for capturing high-quality footage that can prove invaluable when a crime is committed.
“Like all other organisations that use CCTV, we follow a code of practice, comply with the Data Protection Act, and our system is registered with the Information Commissioner’s Office.
“We await further guidance from central government on any future use of HIKVision cameras.”
The Stray Ferret approached HIKVision for comment but we did not receive a response.
Travellers are back on Harrogate’s StrayTravellers have pitched up on the Stray in Harrogate for a second time this summer.
An encampment has appeared on a section of the parkland between Oatlands Drive and Stray Rein. Several vehicles are on site,
Harrogate Borough Council is the legal protector of the Stray. Asked if it was aware of the Travellers’ arrival, a council spokesman said:
“We are indeed and will be following the normal procedure to ensure they are moved on swiftly.”

The scene on the Stray today,
Read more:
- Travellers arrive on Oatlands Park in Harrogate
- Calls for more temporary sites for Travellers in Harrogate district
- Andrew Jones MP writes to Priti Patel about ‘law-breaking’ Travellers
A recent spate of arrivals by Travellers in the Harrogate district has led to calls to provide more designated temporary sites.
Six caravans and several cars arrived near to Oatlands Drive on the Stray in the week leading up to Appleby Horse Fair in Cumbria.
Last month Travellers also pitched up on Oatlands Park, off Hookstone Road,
On both occasions, the council instigated legal proceedings and the Travellers moved on quickly.
But more friction occurred when Travellers parked on the old rugby field at Knaresborough this summer.
It prompted Andrew Jones, the Conservative MP for Harrogate and Knaresborough, to write to Home Secretary Priti Patel complaining of “disorder and anti-social behaviour completely off the scale compared to that associated with previous traveller encampments in our area”.
Harrogate’s Old Bell gets holiday accommodation approvalPlans have been approved to convert the upper floors of a traditional Harrogate pub into holiday accommodation.
It will see the second, third and fourth floors above the Old Bell on Royal Parade changed to letting rooms.
The pub is owned by Market Town Taverns, part of Heron and Brearley (H&B) based on the Isle of Man.
The proposal, submitted by Darren Clibbens of H&B, will see the basement, ground and first floors of the building unchanged.
Harrogate Borough Council has given the go-ahead for the plan.
The upper levels of the building are currently vacant office space, according to the application, with one studio apartment on the top floor.
The council’s estates team, and parks and gardens team, have both responded to the application and have not raised any objection.
However, they have asked for consideration to be given to the storage of resulting trade waste on the site, and highlighted the fact that the area in front of the building, including the pavement, forms part of the Stray.
Read more:
- Plan to convert former Markington pub into house
- Takeaway plan for former launderette on Starbeck High Street
New royal walk created for Harrogate
A royal walk has been created celebrating Harrogate’s links with the monarchy.
The route takes people past 18 locations with royal connections, such as the Sun Pavilion, which was re-opened by the Queen in 1998 and the King Edward VII gates to Valley Gardens.
It starts at Cathcart House and proceeds up Victoria Avenue and across Library Gardens to the Queen Victoria memorial.
It then goes down James Street, across to Old Tom’s Cabin, Farrah’s and Victoria Drive and up to the Edward Vll gates, Royal Baths Hospital, Sun Pavilion, Crescent Gardens before finishing at the Crown Hotel.
Walkers are advised to allow up to 90 minutes.
Stuart Holland, chair of Harrogate Civic Society, said:
“The walk is an opportunity to reflect on the many royal connections across the town.”
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The self-guided walk is accompanied by a leaflet providing information about the route as well as details of royal visits to Harrogate.
The leaflet is available from libraries, the tourist information centre and Mercer gallery, as well as online here.
The walk is a joint venture between Harrogate Dramatic Society, Harrogate Civic Society and Harrogate Borough Council.
The route was devised by Mr Holland and Harry Satloka, who operates Harrogate Free Walking Tours, as part of the Queen’s platinum jubilee celebrations.
Mr Holland and Mr Satloka led an inaugural walk today, which was followed by a one-act play by Harrogate Dramatic Society. Cllr Victoria Oldham, mayor of the Harrogate borough, was among those attending.
Rise in empty homes adds pressure on Harrogate district housing marketThe number of empty homes in the Harrogate district has increased post-covid despite the district’s severe shortage of affordable housing.
Harrogate Borough Council figures show there are currently 801 properties that have stood empty for more than six months – up from 758 in February.
There are also 204 properties that have been empty for over two years, while 30 have been vacant for over a decade.
This comes at a time when housing is in desperate need, with high property prices and a national decline in real wages forcing residents out of Harrogate, which remains as one of the most unaffordable places to live in the UK.
There are also around 1,800 households on the council’s housing register.
The council said it has continued efforts since introducing an empty homes strategy in 2019, although it added much of the responsibility to ensure these properties don’t put pressure on the housing market was on homeowners themselves.
It said in a report:
“The council has agreed to pursue enforcement action where necessary as part of the empty homes strategy.
“Empty homes represent a wasted housing resource; they also pose other problems for local authorities, owners, neighbours, emergency services and the environment.
“They are often a blemish on an area and can be subject to vandalism and anti-social behaviour.”
The council has carried out enforcement action on several empty properties through compulsory purchase orders which allow it to take ownership without the consent of the owner.
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- Consultation into Harrogate town council starts today
However, the council’s first step is to always make an offer to buy these buildings.
It has set aside £2.5 million for this and has recently proposed to buy three buildings on Almsford Road, Rawson Street and Hartwith Drive in Harrogate, and one on Kings Road in Knaresborough.
The council said there is “no guarantee” that an empty homeowner will agree to sell and that in order to take enforcement action the authority must demonstrate it has “exhausted all efforts” to return the property to use.
It said:
“This includes enabling the empty homeowner to sell their home voluntarily.
“In cases where an offer is refused this forms the basis of reviewing further enforcement action such as compulsory purchase, enforced sale or an empty dwelling management order.”
Why are homes left empty?
There are numerous reasons properties can lie empty. In some instances, landlords cannot afford to renovate their property to sell or rent out.
Properties may also have been inherited and the new owners don’t know what to do with them. Rentals can also fall below safety standards which means they sit vacant until the problems are fixed.
What else can be done?
As well as carrying out compulsory purchase orders, the government has also given councils powers to charge an additional 100% council tax on properties that have been empty for two years.
Empty dwelling management orders can also be issued for long term empty properties that are attracting vandalism and causing a nuisance to the community.
Plan to convert Harrogate guesthouse into holiday letsPlans have been submitted to convert a Harrogate guesthouse into nine holiday lets.
The proposal has been submitted to Harrogate Borough Council by Leeds-based Maison Parfaite, which runs Shannon Court on Dragon Avenue.
It would see nine holiday apartments created, which include living and kitchen areas and bedrooms with en-suit bathrooms.
The developer, which also runs holiday properties in Pateley Bridge, said in documents submitted to the council that “the holiday industry is changing” and that visitors preferred “self-contained accommodation”.
It said:
“Although the proposal is for a change of use to a residential use, the proposal would be to provide nine holiday letting rooms which would enhance the tourist offer to the local economy.
“The holiday industry is changing with visitors requiring an improved quality of accommodation and enjoy self contained accommodation rather than the communal dining facilities provided in the existing guest house.”
Harrogate Borough Council will make a decision on the plan at a later date.
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- Campaign to improve Knaresborough High Street
- 170-home plan ‘not right’ for Knaresborough, says town councillor
Consultation into Harrogate town council starts today
A consultation has started today into plans to set up a Harrogate town council.
North Yorkshire County Council is to launch a review into whether to create a lower tier authority in the town.
Harrogate Borough Council will no longer exist from April 1 when the new unitary authority, North Yorkshire Council, is created.
It will leave both Harrogate and Scarborough as the only areas of the county with no parish authority.
The unparished areas of Harrogate include these current county council divisions:
Bilton and Nidd Gorge
Bilton Grange and New Park
Coppice Valley and Duchy (part)
Fairfax and Starbeck
Harlow and St Georges
High Harrogate and Kingsley
Killinghall, Hampsthwaite and Saltergate (part)
Oatlands and Pannal (part)
The Stray and Hookstone
Valley Gardens and Central Harrogate
Residents can give their views in the consultation online. It will close on September 30.
Cllr David Chance, executive member for corporate services, said:
“Parish and town councils have always had a key role in representing the needs of their communities, and will have even greater opportunity to do so – as well as to take on greater responsibilities if they so wish – with the formation of the new North Yorkshire Council in April.
“As two of the county’s major centres of population, it’s vital that Harrogate and Scarborough have this opportunity and I would urge people to look at the consultation and have their say.
“At this stage, no firm proposals are being put forward. Depending on the response to this consultation, a further consultation on detailed proposals could follow.”
Read more:
- Harrogate town council: What is it and what would it cost taxpayers?
- Decision on Harrogate town council could take two years
The county council is due to send letters to residents in Harrogate informing them of the consultation.
Copies of the consultation will also be available from:
- Harrogate Library, Victoria Avenue, Harrogate HG1 1EG
- Bilton and Woodfield Community Library, Woodfield Road, Harrogate, HG1 4HZ
- Harrogate Borough Council, Civic Centre, St Luke’s Avenue, Harrogate HG1 2AE
You can fill in the consultation online here.
What is a town council?
Town and parish councils run services such as community centres and play areas, as well as maintaining bus shelters. Councillors are elected to serve on them but they are not paid.
The councils can also charge a precept as part of council tax bills to fund the services provided, meaning there is a cost to the people they serve.
In the Harrogate district, there are town councils in areas such as Ripon, Knaresborough, Pateley Bridge and Kirby Hill.
Because Harrogate does not currently have a lower tier council, it also raises questions over what its boundaries would be.
£49m Harrogate Convention Centre redevelopment plans move to final design stageThe redevelopment of Harrogate Convention Centre has moved to the next design stage – although a final decision on the £49 million plans is still a year away.
It will be in July or August next year when that decision is made and because of local government reorganisation, it will be taken by the new North Yorkshire Council.
The convention centre is currently owned by Harrogate Borough Council which will hand over ownership of the venue after warning it “may fail to survive” without investment.
It said the convention centre – which is a key driver of business to the district’s hospitality and tourism trades – could lose up to £250 million over the next 40 years unless the redevelopment is carried out.
That warning was put to members of the borough council’s cabinet on Wednesday when they approved spending £3.3 million to progress final designs.
Trevor Watson, director of economy, environment and housing at the borough council, told a meeting that the redevelopment would enhance the appearance of the 40-year-old building and improve access to its auditorium.
He said:
“But absolutely critically, it would replace the ageing and failing mechanical and electrical facilities which we will have to do regardless of whether this scheme goes ahead.”
“The reality is we can’t do nothing as we would still require many millions of pounds of investment just to keep the venue ticking over”.
Read more:
- Fears for Harrogate Convention Centre if new Leeds venue goes ahead
- Harrogate Convention Centre ‘could lose £250 million without investment’
The convention centre competes with venues in Manchester, Birmingham, London and other major cities for events. And now there is a new threat much closer to home after plans for a Leeds conference venue were revealed.
Those proposals for the site of the former Yorkshire Bank HQ were set for approval by Leeds City Council last week until a wave of objections from Harrogate Convention Centre and the town’s business leaders delayed the decision.
Paula Lorimer, director of Harrogate Convention Centre, criticised the city council for an “absence of dialogue” on the plans which she fears will have a big impact on Harrogate’s place in the “very competitive” events industry.
She also told Wednesday’s meeting:
“The convention centre’s role is to protect and create jobs for Harrogate, and to ensure it does not become a seasonal town and shut in the winter.
“Although the venue has retained many loyal clients over the years, increasing competition and growing operating costs have resulted in us having a major rethink of what our offer actually is.
“We need to innovate to recapture our position in the market and I very much believe this is achievable.”
The next stages of the proposed development will see designs produced by next May, before final costs are revealed the following month.
If approved, construction works would start later in the year with completion in November 2024.