Stray Views: Concerns over Scotton Weir removal on River Nidd

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Concerns over Scotton Weir removal

Over the last few years, ecologists and others have been busy building dams and weirs in streams throughout the UK in order to slow the flow of water into river catchments thereby reducing the impact of flooding. It’s been pretty successful, dams and weirs are well known to help in lessening the impact of flooding. Indeed, in some areas we now employ beavers to do it for us.

Why then has Scotton Weir on the River Nidd been removed?

Scotton Weir has, for over 200 years, held back thousands of cubic metres of flood water that will now race down the catchment increasing flooding and the risk of flooding in Knaresborough and downstream communities.

The work, as I understand it, is to help fish migrate upstream towards Harrogate North sewage treatment works outfalls and west which is great news for the fish but not so for those at risk of flooding.

I did ask the scheme promoter for comment, he didn’t have the courtesy to respond. I spoke to North Yorkshire County Council’s flood and water management team who describe themselves as “the lead local flood authority” — they batted it on to the Environment Agency quicksticks and I finally got a lengthy and rather tedious phone call from a chap at the EA who assured me I was wrong and that there would be no impact on downstream flooding.

I hope he’s right but I fear he isn’t.

David Howarth, Bilton


Call for Knaresborough cemetery group to be formed

Responding to Jayne Jackson’s letter regarding the cemetery in Knaresborough, I think it would be really helpful if a ‘Friends of the Cemetery’ group was formed.   

It could then formulate policy and practice about how the cemetery is managed.  Personally, I’m always aiming to maximise biodiversity and wildlife havens, since humans destroy so much nature all the time, so we need to find places where we can give nature a home.  

It seems to me that cemeteries are an ideal place to have wild areas, as long as there are pathways so that it’s still possible to get close to the graves.

Many cemeteries have this policy, such as the wonderful York Cemetery,  Sharow Church, and now also St John’s Church in Knaresborough.

Shan Oakes, Knaresborough


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Queen’s great-grandchildren were well behaved

The most important part of a funeral if you have to take your children, for them to pay their, respects to their great grandma the Queen is that they know how to behave in the service and try to follow and understand what is going on.

I congratulate William and Kate on their upbringing of their children. It was a very long day for two young people. Their behaviour was impeccable when required.

If the children outside of the service behaved as children do, it doesn’t matter. They are human children

Any grown up does not have the right to criticise any parents about the behaviour outside the services their children have had to go through.

Margaret Beckingham, Harrogate


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Stray Views: I met the new King at Bettys in Harrogate

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I worked for Taylor’s and Betty’s and had been off work with a very bad shoulder but I was invited to a special day at the Parliament Street café to meet the Prince Charles, now the King.

I and all in attendance on that day felt and feel so privileged to have shaken his hand and have a chat. When asked what I did , saying I worked at the Taylor’s part of the business and that we try to make the best cup of tea, he gave me a big pat on my shoulder and I winced.

I still suffer with pain but that is not from the royal pat but now old age.

Long live my King.

Terence Mason, Harrogate


My husband, Richard, and I are on holiday in Alassio, Italy and were in a gin bar when we heard the dreaded news that the Queen had so very sadly died. We were both in tears.

Today we found a hand written letter from the manager of our hotel, The Grand Hotel Alassio, expressing his deepest condolences to the Royal Family, Governments and all citizens of the UK and Commonwealth countries.

He also said the profound dignity for which she held office for such a long period has been an increasing source of admiration for generations. We were so very touched that our lovely monarch meant much to people of other countries and cried again.

JoJo Haytet, Harrogate


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Stray Views: Knaresborough Cemetery deserves more care

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Knaresborough Cemetery deserves more care too

I see Mark Anthony Taylor (previous Stray Views) is unhappy with the way the grass is cut at Stonefall. You are lucky. We have had this for the past four years to my knowledge.

Knaresborough has seen even worse service with the grass cutting team regularly pulled off for six weeks at a time from cutting our cemetery grass. The response I got was they are letting it grow for biodiversity.

This was in the “new section” where it was thigh high in places. The team meanwhile were planting pretty flowers in Harrogate. Be grateful your grass is cut.

Jayne Jackson, Knaresborough


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Oak Beck land sale

I totally agree that this should never be sold – it provides a safe place for wildlife, play areas and walks.  

Harrogate Borough Council getting it wrong again.

Gillian Long, Harrogate


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Stray Views: Where can we go to escape the stresses of life in Harrogate?

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Selling of council land at Oak Beck

The council have now decided to flog off this last piece of green space in New Park. Apparently to provide a bit of dosh to prop up the
conference centre business in fear of Leeds grabbing OUR visitors.

Piece by piece this lacklustre council having spent lots of dosh on pointless and ineffective plans and schemes, now are evicting wildlife from the final vestiges of natural environment.

This is a lovely area of peace, where we can hear the birds, and listen to the beck gurgling it’s way (sometimes sewage as well).

Where are all these creatures to go? Where can we go to escape the stresses of life in Harrogate? Another rotten plan from a soon to be defunct council.

William B Thompson, New Park, Harrogate


Reduction in the Fire Service in Harrogate.

I have not seen the details of this proposal to fully comment.

However, since the Harrogate fire station was built some years ago and staffed with the suitable staff levels and appliances, Harrogate has expanded massively with additional housing and industrial units.

Just looking from my car driving into Harrogate by the A59 or by Penny Pot. Huge housing developments. Industrial units near the Army College. Even Killinghall has probably doubled in size with additional housing.

This is happening throughout the area.

Then there’s the condition of the older existing properties both housing , retail and business premises.
These properties will have been modified over the years and retail and business properties may well have not had proper upgrading of fire resistance ( work done on the cheap).

These older properties will have timber roofing members, floor joists which will be now tinder dry and with the change in climate, plus heating and other equipment not being updated, the fire risk will have increased quite a lot.

Remember the huge fire next to what was the North Eastern pub some years ago?

Any reduction will impact public safety.

So any reductions seem unwise!!

Allan Campbell, Harrogate


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Starbeck should support KFC expansion – a response

 William Powell makes some good points in his call for Starbeck’s KFC to be expanded, but he is wrong to dismiss the views of local people.

He is right that Starbeck is in a wonderful strategic position between Harrogate and Knaresborough, with excellent transport links. He is right that empty premises on our High Street are a bad thing.

He is right that Starbeck has a vibrant economy, but this is driven by the local residents of our diverse area who use these shops and facilities. But they are also impacted by those businesses, whether its litter, noise, traffic or a range of other issues that local people regularly raise with the Residents’ Association.

So the Starbeck Residents’ Association (SRA) asked people who live locally what they thought about KFC’s plans and others. And views were split. Some thought it was most important to fill empty premises. Others wanted a wider diversity of businesses on a High Street that already has plenty of takeaways. Both are right and not contradictory.

The SRA recognises that we cannot force particular enterprises into a particular area. That’s why we are in touch with the local Chamber of Commerce and others about what more we can do to promote Starbeck. It has a well used library, swimming pool, successful sports clubs and facilities like Belmont Park and a real sense of community, with numerous local voluntary groups attached to our vibrant church communities and many others.

So let’s be ambitious for our area. I know I’m not alone in being proud to live in Starbeck and together we can make it better.

Chris Watt, Chair Starbeck Residents’ Association

Stray Views: Starbeck should support KFC expansion

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Starbeck should support KFC expansion

Thank you for your recent coverage of the KFC expansion. I’m saddened by the responses of Starbeck residents to the expansion of a successful business, and the demonisation of the industry as a whole.

Starbeck has rightly or wrongly become a refuge for the care system, the homeless, and people needing supported and sheltered accommodation. These people don’t have the incomes to support lovely deli’s and independent retail units that some residents loudly protest we should have. The businesses in Starbeck need to survive in a tough local environment. However, they can use the strategic location between Harrogate and Knaresborough to reach a massive local market and we should support them in doing so.

Empty shops bring disasters like McColl’s burnt out shell and feed a vicious cycle of crime and poverty. On an evening, our high street is a hive of activity and there is a real hustle and bustle thanks to our takeaways and food outlets. We should be leaning into this to create a real foodie destination to bring more jobs and improve Starbeck’s reputation.

Any one of us could take over these empty shops and start a business. If they believe there is a genuine demand for smaller retail shops, then I would challenge them to put their money where their mouth is.

William Powell, Starbeck


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Stonefall Cemetery deserves more care

Stonefall Cemetery has traditionally been kept beautifully and was always cared for. However it seems this year the grass cutting is rough, careless and damaging. 

I have noted now that the last five cuts have been made with heavy machines which aren’t really suitable for delicate areas. The cut grass is being left and is now preventing new growth, leaving the plots looking awful. I’m sure the council realises this is a graveyard and not a roadside verge. Our families deserve more care and respect.

I contacted Stonefall and they were sorry to hear my complaint but told me that the council had changed the garden team before Christmas.

I also frequent Harrogate Valley Gardens in Harrogate, which is beautifully cared for. Shouldn’t we provide the same care for our dearly departed?

Mark Anthony Taylor, Harrogate


Gateway correspondence response

In response to last week’s Stray Views letter regarding Station Gateway being “long overdue”, I note that the correspondent lives in Knaresborough.

Gillian Long, Harrogate


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Stray Views: Harrogate Station Gateway scheme is ‘long overdue’

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Station Gateway is ‘long overdue’

I’ve read the debate and articles, many of them in the Stray Ferret and have become increasingly disillusioned by the negativity. I think it’s now time for those like me who think this proposal is long overdue to say so.

It’s not perfect and personally I would like it to go further, but it goes some way to rebalancing the area in favour of those who choose/have to walk and cycle and to revitalise this area. It will help reconnect the town centre with surrounding communities and better link the railway and bus stations to the town. This type of scheme has been successfully done in other towns and cities and has proved truly transformative.

Station Parade is a ‘great’ example of the type of traffic planning which was inflicted on communities in the last century, across the country. These ring roads were designed to speed traffic through towns but with little regard for the impacts of the surrounding communities or other forms of transport.

With this scheme we now have a chance to start to put some of this right.

Much of the debate has been about how many seconds will be added to journeys and the impact on businesses. With the reduced impact of traffic in this area, better connection of the town centre and a revitalised local area, there must be the potential for a better business environment. There may be some extra seconds on journeys but the bigger picture of improved lives and business success must surely be worth it.

Let’s not also forget that this scheme is being achieved through external government finance, a pretty rare thing these days. If we miss this opportunity and fail to deliver, don’t be surprised if the next time we ask for help there is a sceptical response.

So let’s get behind this scheme and show what we’re capable of achieving.

The consultation closes on 23 August. Have your say, it will be too late afterwards wishing you’d bothered to respond, when the doom merchants talk it out of time. Fill in the survey here.

Ian Brown, Knaresborough


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Relief at Beech Grove LTN end

Thank goodness the boxes are to be removed.

We used Beech Grove to park our car for the last 50 years as it allowed us to walk on the Stray for pleasure or just going into the town centre. Why did Beech Grove almost always have parking space available?

With the boxes installed we had no means of taking pleasure of walking across the Stray.

It is almost impossible to have a walk on any of the Stray as all parking places are occupied nearly all day. This makes the Stray a useless piece of land as the residents of the area plus visitors cannot use it.

Going back to Beech Grove, I have always thought that it should be a one way going up from The Avenue to Otley Road. As a two way traffic route it meant that a lot of speeding took place to get past the cars parked on it.

Allan Campbell, Harrogate


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Stray Views: Who benefits from Maltkiln?

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Who benefits from the Maltkiln development? 

Will our local councils come clean and explain to us why they are proceeding with Maltkiln after refusing, right up to the High Court, the development of Flaxby with the following consequences:

Can they tell us who are the beneficiaries of this decision?

Dr Terry Bramall CBE, Harrogate


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Chain Lane/York Road junction, Knaresborough

Having read Mr Payne’s letter regarding this junction and the poor signage, I was compelled to write. I asked North Yorkshire County Council why the temporary right turn sign suddenly appeared. This makes life difficult for residents on The Paddock trying to get home from Wetherby Road. The diversion down Manse Lane is nothing short of dangerous!

I have waited patiently for weeks for a reply…still waiting. I also contacted our Town representatives….they are also still waiting for a reply.

Is this the service we can expect when we all come under North Yorkshire Council. It makes me shudder!

Please Highways, can I have an answer?

Regards

Jayne Jackson, Knaresborough 


Opening Beech Grove wont solve anything

Dennis Richards says the Beech Grove scheme has made Victoria Road more dangerous because of speeding traffic.

Beech Grove Low Traffic Neighbourhood hasn’t made drivers go faster on Victoria Road but it has meant there are more of them. That is going to be tackled by making the junction with Otley Road one way only.

Drivers will be able to enter Victoria Road but not exit onto Otley Road.

Opening up Beech Grove to through traffic won’t solve anything but will make the road much less pleasant for residents and no longer a safe oasis for cyclists.

Malcolm Margolis , Harrogate District Cycle Action 

Stray Views: Signing up to social care scheme ‘irresponsible’

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Signing up to social care scheme ‘irresponsible’

In response to the county council’s pilot scheme for social care. Isn’t it irresponsible to sign up to a scheme when you know it could bankrupt you? And is this the same authority which will shortly control Harrogate’s finances? Heaven help us.

Diane Stokes, Harrogate


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Concern over new Knaresborough junction layout

Whoever was responsible for designing the new layout and the subsequent flow of traffic through the Chain Lane and Wetherby Road junction needs to be severely reprimanded for failing to think out the consequences of their actions due to a lack of knowledge on such matters.

Every time you attempt to cross the A59 from Chain Lane you are faced with trying to avoid a collision. The inside lane is for turning left or crossing the A59 to enter Wetherby Road. The outside lane is for turning right to travel in the direction of Knaresborough town centre. Due to the poor standard of the road markings, the number of vehicles that still try and cross into Wetherby Road from the outside lane is astonishingly high causing vehicles having to take action to avoid a collision. 

Horns beeped, hand gestures etc from those in the outside lane who think they are in the correct lane. Travelling the other way from Wetherby Road there is a temporary road sign that indicates no right turn. Try telling that to the individuals who have always turned right at this junction and continue to do so, 

Today I was confronted by a youth who was following the instructions of a driving instructor who insisted that you can still turn right onto the A59 in the direction away from Knaresborough. The signage needs to be much larger and clearer and needs to be rectified before somebody ends up in the cemetery that is situated at his junction. North Yorkshire Council sort it out.

Robbie Payne, Knaresborough


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Stray Views: Station Gateway ‘will degrade things’

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Station Gateway criticism

Having read the latest on this project I see that the council admit that pedestrianising James Street will reduce business by 2% and that by reducing Station Parade to one lane a journey round town would increase by 73 seconds. 

From day one of this ludicrous scheme we have been told how it will improve everything and be a big benefit to Harrogate. 

It would appear that so far the only thing guaranteed is that it will degrade things. It would seem that the maths I was taught in school in the 50s do not conform to modern teaching if these figures are now considered an improvement.

Malcolm Hodgekinson, Harrogate


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‘Satanic imagery’ in Harrogate

I must strongly object to what can only be described as the Satanic imagery featured in the posters in the streets and website for the “Harrogate Carnival”.

A “person” in a fetish leather clad red dress featuring devil horns and scary red makeup is not what I would call “family friendly”.

If this is representative of what this Carnival is about then I don’t think it is appropriate for young children to attend, I certainly won’t be bringing my family to it.

I would like to know if my hard earned council tax money is being spent on this outrage to good taste and decency? 

Ian Hardcastle, Harrogate


Borough council ‘ignored’ over Woodfield School

Harrogate Lib Dems are very angry at North Yorkshire County Council for ignoring our plea, made at the last Harrogate Borough Council meeting, to stop the closure of Woodfield School, which was agreed by all councillors.

The North Yorkshire Conservative Executive Member responsible for Education has not stopped the closure of the school and declined to ask the Secretary of State for Education to remove the academisation order leaving the children of Woodfield in difficult circumstances, long walks to schools and in one case, so far, siblings being potentially sent to different schools. 

We need more schools in Harrogate not less with thousands of houses still to be built in Kingsley where will all these young people go for their schooling? This is a disgrace and the young people of Woodfield are being let down so, so badly.

Pat Marsh, leader of the Liberal Democrats on Harrogate Borough Council


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Stray Views: Noisy cars in Harrogate should be monitored at weekends

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Noisy cars should be monitored at weekends

Totally agree there should be a clampdown on noisy cars – especially needs to be monitored in Harrogate during weekends. 

This is not the first time action has been promised but monitoring not kept up. Police would find a hefty contribution towards funds if they were fined.

Gillian Long, Harrogate


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Noisy cars ‘constant’ on Harrogate Road

I live next to Harrogate Road. Cars are constantly coming over High Bridge accelerating to hit the double carriage section.

The noise is at times deafening with the back firing, which seems to be the fashion.The speed  which they travel up the road is way past the speed limit and you hear them throttle back when reaching the bollards opposite the Care Building on the right.

Why they do it beats me, because you usually catch them up at the lights on Bogs Lane. The police, you never see them.

Malcom Wood, Harrogate


Boris Johnson better than the alternative

In response to Paul Baverstock’s latest Strayside Sunday column, although Boris Johnson was not a perfect Prime Minster at least he is not Jeremy Corbyn or Keir Starmer.

Paul Smith, Knaresborough


Waiting on Gateway consultation

We’ve read more than once that there will be a third consultation regarding this ghastly scheme.

Could you please publish the details of this consultation in your pages as we would all like to know exactly what form it’s taking and who exactly is being consulted as we don’t know of anyone who was on the first and second ones.

It’s a dreadful scheme and we’d like a chance to give our opinions.

Brian and Tricia Preston, Harrogate


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